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Anyone use Suki skin care products? Opinions?

Sammijo10 — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 03:50:24 GMT

I came across this line in a local organic market, checked on Beautypeadia for product evaluations and it's not listed.

Does anyone use this line?

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JeanLouiseFinch — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 03:56:38 GMT

Sorry, but I haven't heard of it. What do they have? Are you going to try anything?

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cassiem — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 04:11:41 GMT

I have done a lot of research on natural products. Suki is a great company with high quality products. My skin doesn't tolerate essential oils well, but there are a few Suki products I keep in my rotation. The balancing oil for oily skin is truly amazing. If you call of email them, they will help custom design a regimen.

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HappyDaze — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 04:13:23 GMT

I've never tried it but it is on either Hautelook or Beyond the Rack all the time just so you know (don't know how good of deals they are or not). I know they carry at Whole Foods too but I thought it seemed kind of pricey for some of the items, at least at whole foods prices.

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BellaCarro — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 04:14:03 GMT

Pricey, isn't it? The products like interesting but some show alcohol as the second ingredient in a list of some other really nice ingredients. They don't say what type of alcohol it is. Are you going to try something? Link Did I find the line you were talking about?

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BellaCarro — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 04:17:13 GMT

On 1/12/2014 cassiem said: I have done a lot of research on natural products. Suki is a great company with high quality products. My skin doesn't tolerate essential oils well, but there are a few Suki products I keep in my rotation. The balancing oil for oily skin is truly amazing. If you call of email them, they will help custom design a regimen.

Perfect, the alcohol (in skin care) expert! They don't say what type of alcohol they have in the ingredient deck but it's the second ingredient in a few things. Toner, for example. Any idea what kind it is?

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HappyDaze — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 04:20:28 GMT

Bella, when alcohol is listed in the ingredients as just plain "alcohol" it is almost always (in fact I personally have never seen it otherwise) the drying type of alcohol (ethanol, I believe is the chemical name). Now that you mention it, if I remember correctly, this is why I didn't try the products in the past.

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BellaCarro — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 04:27:07 GMT

On 1/12/2014 HappyDaze said:
Bella, when alcohol is listed in the ingredients as just plain "alcohol" it is almost always (in fact I personally have never seen it otherwise) the drying type of alcohol (ethanol, I believe is the chemical name). Now that you mention it, if I remember correctly, this is why I didn't try the products in the past.

Geez, another case of messing up an otherwise really great ingredient deck. Why, oh why do that?!

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cassiem — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 04:30:26 GMT

On 1/12/2014 BellaCarro said:
On 1/12/2014 cassiem said: I have done a lot of research on natural products. Suki is a great company with high quality products. My skin doesn't tolerate essential oils well, but there are a few Suki products I keep in my rotation. The balancing oil for oily skin is truly amazing. If you call of email them, they will help custom design a regimen.

Perfect, the alcohol (in skin care) expert! They don't say what type of alcohol they have in the ingredient deck but it's the second ingredient in a few things. Toner, for example. Any idea what kind it is?

Unfortunately, it's not the good kind. I believe Suki uses grain alcohol.

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Sammijo10 — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 04:45:55 GMT

On 1/12/2014 BellaCarro said:
Pricey, isn't it? The products like interesting but some show alcohol as the second ingredient in a list of some other really nice ingredients. They don't say what type of alcohol it is. Are you going to try something? Link Did I find the line you were talking about?

That's the one. I wasn't thinking of the toner with alcohol - I'm trying to stay away from things with alcohol and preservatives in them. I was looking specifically at the eye treatments. I believe they also have a vitamin c serum that I was thinking of for night time. I found the line at a local Healthy Living Market. Some of the items seem pricey, but I've spent more and less on skin care items that didn't work. I know many of you have done a lot of research on natural/organic skin care and thought there might be a user of the line among you all.

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KrissieK — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 04:52:56 GMT

I received the exfoliating foaming cleanser in my Birchbox a few months ago. It was amazing. The sugar exfoliated nicely and in combination with the foam, my face was cleansed and exfoliated but not stripped. It smells good too.

However, I couldn't purchase it again knowing that it was just soap, sugar and rice powder for that price. It does have extracts and essential oils so if you choose not to use EOs and/or plant extracts or have sensitive skin, you may not like it or want to try it.

It did give me and idea to create something like this for myself. I just haven't gotten around to it.

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Sammijo10 — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 04:54:05 GMT

On 1/12/2014 cassiem said: I have done a lot of research on natural products. Suki is a great company with high quality products. My skin doesn't tolerate essential oils well, but there are a few Suki products I keep in my rotation. The balancing oil for oily skin is truly amazing. If you call of email them, they will help custom design a regimen.

What items do you use? Anything else besides the balancing oil?

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Sammijo10 — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 05:36:46 GMT

On 1/12/2014 KrissieK said:
I received the exfoliating foaming cleanser in my Birchbox a few months ago. It was amazing. The sugar exfoliated nicely and in combination with the foam, my face was cleansed and exfoliated but not stripped. It smells good too.

However, I couldn't purchase it again knowing that it was just soap, sugar and rice powder for that price. It does have extracts and essential oils so if you choose not to use EOs and/or plant extracts or have sensitive skin, you may not like it or want to try it.

It did give me and idea to create something like this for myself. I just haven't gotten around to it.

thanks, Krissie, good to know about the cleanser. That was one of the items that interested me as well. I don't usually have an issue with any essential oils, just alcohol and preservatives.

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suzyQ3 — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 20:27:41 GMT

On 1/12/2014 BellaCarro said:
On 1/12/2014 HappyDaze said:
Bella, when alcohol is listed in the ingredients as just plain "alcohol" it is almost always (in fact I personally have never seen it otherwise) the drying type of alcohol (ethanol, I believe is the chemical name). Now that you mention it, if I remember correctly, this is why I didn't try the products in the past.

Geez, another case of messing up an otherwise really great ingredient deck. Why, oh why do that?!

And that toner that has "alcohol" as its second ingredient is the toner recommended for "normal/sensitive" skin when you do a "shop by skin type."

Not only that but it has lavendar oil and fragrance.

It really does confirm my opinion that so-called "natural" or "organic" does not necessarily mean gentle and probably doesn't necessarily mean more safe or effective.

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Shelbelle — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:36:34 GMT

SHOP HQ has a 6 pc. kit on clearance for approx. $35. Only gets 3 stars on the reviews.

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HappyDaze — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:47:47 GMT

On 1/13/2014 suzyQ3 said:
On 1/12/2014 BellaCarro said:
On 1/12/2014 HappyDaze said:
Bella, when alcohol is listed in the ingredients as just plain "alcohol" it is almost always (in fact I personally have never seen it otherwise) the drying type of alcohol (ethanol, I believe is the chemical name). Now that you mention it, if I remember correctly, this is why I didn't try the products in the past.

Geez, another case of messing up an otherwise really great ingredient deck. Why, oh why do that?!

And that toner that has "alcohol" as its second ingredient is the toner recommended for "normal/sensitive" skin when you do a "shop by skin type."

Not only that but it has lavendar oil and fragrance.

It really does confirm my opinion that so-called "natural" or "organic" does not necessarily mean gentle and probably doesn't necessarily mean more safe or effective.

I really do not get the inclusion of the drying type of alcohol in products. What purpose does it serve? I don't like most essential oils in my skincare products either but I know most add them in for scent or because of supposed claims of "invigoration" (I say, irritation), etc but why drying, irritating alcohol (or even witch hazel)??

There are so many potentially great formulations out there that would be so amazing if they would cut out drying alcohols and essential oils and irritating extracts (like from spices).

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Sammijo10 — Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:00:54 GMT

On 1/13/2014 Shelbelle said:
SHOP HQ has a 6 pc. kit on clearance for approx. $35. Only gets 3 stars on the reviews.

I didn't realize it was sold on Shop HQ. In fact, there is only a 'try me' kit there (which didn't have even one of the items I'm considering!) and the three star review is one purchaser who thought the bottles were too small for the price. Nothing in the review about the efficacy of the product. Guess they have the same issues with unhelpful reviews as the Q does sometimes.

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suzyQ3 — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 00:49:48 GMT

On 1/13/2014 Sammijo said:
On 1/13/2014 Shelbelle said:
SHOP HQ has a 6 pc. kit on clearance for approx. $35. Only gets 3 stars on the reviews.

I didn't realize it was sold on Shop HQ. In fact, there is only a 'try me' kit there (which didn't have even one of the items I'm considering!) and the three star review is one purchaser who thought the bottles were too small for the price. Nothing in the review about the efficacy of the product. Guess they have the same issues with unhelpful reviews as the Q does sometimes.

SMH at that kind of review. So helpful, eh?

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suzyQ3 — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 00:56:27 GMT

On 1/13/2014 HappyDaze said:
On 1/13/2014 suzyQ3 said:
On 1/12/2014 BellaCarro said:
On 1/12/2014 HappyDaze said:
Bella, when alcohol is listed in the ingredients as just plain "alcohol" it is almost always (in fact I personally have never seen it otherwise) the drying type of alcohol (ethanol, I believe is the chemical name). Now that you mention it, if I remember correctly, this is why I didn't try the products in the past.

Geez, another case of messing up an otherwise really great ingredient deck. Why, oh why do that?!

And that toner that has "alcohol" as its second ingredient is the toner recommended for "normal/sensitive" skin when you do a "shop by skin type."

Not only that but it has lavendar oil and fragrance.

It really does confirm my opinion that so-called "natural" or "organic" does not necessarily mean gentle and probably doesn't necessarily mean more safe or effective.

I really do not get the inclusion of the drying type of alcohol in products. What purpose does it serve? I don't like most essential oils in my skincare products either but I know most add them in for scent or because of supposed claims of "invigoration" (I say, irritation), etc but why drying, irritating alcohol (or even witch hazel)??

There are so many potentially great formulations out there that would be so amazing if they would cut out drying alcohols and essential oils and irritating extracts (like from spices).

That's exactly how they work. From Beautypedia:

Ingredients such as menthol, peppermint, camphor, and mint are counter-irritants (Sources: Archives of Dermatologic Research, May 1996, pages 245–248; and Code of Federal Regulations Title 21—Food and Drugs, revised April 1, 2001, CITE: 21CFR310.545, www.fda.gov). Counter-irritants are used to induce local inflammation for the purpose of relieving inflammation in deeper or adjacent tissues. In other words, they substitute one kind of inflammation for another, which is never good for skin. Irritation or inflammation, no matter what causes it or how it happens, impairs the skin’s immune and healing response (Source: Skin Pharmacology and Applied Skin Physiology, November–December 2000, pages 358–371). And although your skin may not show it or doesn’t react in an irritated fashion, if you apply irritants to your skin the damage is still taking place and is ongoing, so it adds up over time (Source: Skin Research and Technology, November 2001, pages 227–237).

Yes, I guess they serve some supposed purpose, and if in very minor amounts, they're probably not going to cause much trouble. But alcohol (the drying kind) seems unnecessary. I wonder what the reasoning is for its inclusion.