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Jen44 · ‎03-02-2013

For those that have used all three rice-based formulas, does the FF perform more like BGT or MIF? I love MIF, but BGT is drying to my hair. TIA!

quadmimi · ‎12-27-2010

@Jen44 wrote:
For those that have used all three rice-based formulas, does the FF perform more like BGT or MIF? I love MIF, but BGT is drying to my hair. TIA!

It's the same as MIF without the scent...My Husband says he thinks it's the thickest of all the CC's...(not more than 613 in my opinion)..Super rich and moisture filled...

Jen44 · ‎03-02-2013

@quadmimi wrote:
@Jen44 wrote:
For those that have used all three rice-based formulas, does the FF perform more like BGT or MIF? I love MIF, but BGT is drying to my hair. TIA!
It's the same as MIF without the scent...My Husband says he thinks it's the thickest of all the CC's...(not more than 613 in my opinion)..Super rich and moisture filled...

Thank you very much!

HSB1204 · ‎12-29-2014

@quadmimi wrote:
@Jen44 wrote:
For those that have used all three rice-based formulas, does the FF perform more like BGT or MIF? I love MIF, but BGT is drying to my hair. TIA!
It's the same as MIF without the scent...My Husband says he thinks it's the thickest of all the CC's...(not more than 613 in my opinion)..Super rich and moisture filled...

I agree. It seems to perform more like MIF than BGT.

yisbuff2 · ‎07-18-2015

@bebe777 your information is amazing as usual!

@RipleyGirl I would also be super interested in your insider knowledge as well!

bebe777 · ‎12-10-2012

@yisbuff2 wrote:
@bebe777 your information is amazing as usual!

@RipleyGirl I would also be super interested in your insider knowledge as well!

@yisbuff2, thank you for your kind words. I'm glad the info was helpful.

@RipleyGirl, I'd also appreciate your insider knowledge as well.

-- bebe

bebe777 · ‎12-10-2012

SInce the upcoming March 19th Wen TSV has both 613 and 319 formula options, I thought the information in this thread might be helpful. Brdwygurl shared more information in her 613/319 TSV is out and it's AMAZING thread. -- Below is the information which is in the first post of this thread. -- bebe

Here's what I know about Wen and all things fragrance free...

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Unscented versus Fragrance Free...

First of all, there is a difference between the terms unscented and fragrance free.

Unscented means that the product does not have any sort of scent at all. That said, I don't know if they may have added "scents" which effectively neutralize the smell of the scent in order to create the "unscented" effect. -- And, by that, I mean I have no idea if they are allowed, by law, to add "scents" which neutralize the smell of a "scent". Does anyone else have any more information about this?

In contrast, fragrance free means that no scents have been specifically added to the product in order to scent it in any way (even to neutralize the scent of a scent). Many ingredients in products have their own natural scents, so the finished product will have the combined smell of those scents. -- I would imagine that, during the creation of the product, that these ingredients are balanced to make sure that the final scent is not objectionable... since they can't add scent to the finished product in order to change the scent.

Here's are the two fragrance free Wen products available right now:

* 319 Nourishing Body Treatment (319 NBT) which is in the 613/319 soy-basedproduct line.

* new rice-based Fragrance Free (FF) cleansing conditioner -- which is in the rice-based, bamboo water infused Restorative line... which also includes both the Bamboo Green Tea (BGT) and Mandarin Italian Fig (MIF) products.

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The Wen soy-based 613/319 product line...

Chaz named the 319 line in honor of his dad. The 613 line was named to honor both Chaz's mom and Chaz's friend, Spirit. His dad had mentioned that he would like to have a Wen product named in his honor as well. When Chaz was almost finished formulating the 319 NBT, he realized that his dad didn't have a sense of smell and so he felt that for this reason 319 had a special connection with his father.

Now this is just my personal take on the 613/319 line... 319 NBT is the fragrance free version of 613 NBT. Chaz talks about how the 613 soy-based line is the super power, power packed, "Wen on steroids", top of the line Wen product line... and the 613 name honors his mom. Base on that, to me, it makes perfect sense that Chaz would love that the 319 fragrance free side of the 613 product line honors his father. -- This brings his mom and his dad together, and allows Chaz to honor both of them in his top of the line Wen product line. -- As I said before, this is just my take on this. *s*

Unlike some of his other product lines, Chaz doesn't have as many products in the 613 portion of this product line:

* Cleansing Conditioner (CC)

* Styling Creme (SC)

* Replenishing Treatment Mist (RTM)

* Mousse

* Treatment Oil

* Nourishing Body Treatment (NBT)

* Eau de Toilette (EDT)

* Eau de Parfum (EDP)

So, at this point, there are five soy-based products that Chaz could bring out in the future in the 319 side of the line: Cleansing Conditioner, Styling Creme, Replenishing Treatment Mist, Treatment Oil, and Mousse.

What differentiates the 613 line from all of Chaz's other product lines is that:

* 613 products contain the most concentrated amounts of Chaz's 11 amino acid complex in them.

* 613 products contain the most concentrated amounts of extra skin care ingredients in them (remember your scalp is part of your skin).

Note: I don't think that either the amino acid complex or the particular extra skin care ingredients -- which were specifically added to certain Wen cleansing conditioners, including 613 CC -- are in the 613 Treatment Oil. I also don't think that the 613 Treatment Oil is soy-based but, if you are allergic to soy, then make sure to check with Chaz's customer service department.

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New rice-based Fragrance Free (FF) cleansing conditioner...

The new Fragrance Free cleansing conditioner is in the rice-based, bamboo water infused Restorative line.

These are the three formulas in the Restorative line:

* Bamboo Green Tea (BGT)

* Mandarin Italian Fig (MIF)

* Fragrance Free (FF)

Key features of the Restorative line:

* rice-based products -- wheat-free, soy-free, and (I think) nut-free. Check on the "nut-free" to be sure, and I'm really not sure if the Remoist is nut-free.

* 11 amino acid complex

* most concentrated bamboo water and bamboo extract products (and it is a key feature of this line)

* skin care ingredients

The Fragrance Free (FF) cleansing conditioner is essentially a fragrance free version of Mandarin Italian Fig (MIF) cleansing conditioner, because the ingredients decks are almost exactly the same -- MIF has green tea extract (the 23rd ingredient) which is not in the FF -- and also the FF has no added fragrance. The FF has almost no scent to it, though some Wenners can detect a slight smell of menthol.

While the Bamboo Green Tea (BGT) cleansing conditioner is also rice-based and bamboo water infused, the BGT ingredients deck has a number of differences from the ingredients found in both the MIF and FF cleansing conditioner ingredients decks.

Right now, the only rice-based FF product available is the brand new cleansing conditioner. -- That said, since the other two Restorative formulas have a number of different products available, I think it's likely that Chaz will be adding more rice-based FF products in the future (just my guess).

Current Restorative Line products available in both Bamboo Green Tea (BGT) and Mandarin Italian Fig (MIF):

* Cleansing Conditioner (CC)

* Styling Creme (SC)

* Replenishing Treatment Mist (RTM)

* Mousse

* Treatment Oil

* Remoist

* Volumizing Treatment Spray (VTS)

Some additional threads you might want to look through for more information are the Wen FAQ (messages #3 & #4) and the Wen Abbreviations Glossary.

Enjoy!!!

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