Beauty

[Blahblahvampemer]

On 3/28/2015 suzyQ3 said:

On 3/28/2015 momcat said:

Curiosity made me open this post, and I wish I hadn't. I truly can't stand this woman.

May I ask why? I know that you are very politically conservative, but certainly you must favor equality and advancement for women.

I don't know where to start as a conservative woman. The misconceptions abound. Conservative does not mean wimp, weakness or any other negative word along those lines. One of the many reasons I lean this way is because we say you are woman, let's hear you roar. If a woman doesn't negotiate a good salary, that's on her. You want to be prosperous, then you follow the rules to get there and don't ask the government to fund your promiscuity. Put on your big-girl panties ladies and stop blaming someone else. I don't know a single woman on my side that doesn't have the ability to stand up for herself, her family, and her community. Not a stepford wife in the bunch. Would I have a problem with a husband representing the family? Not for a second.

[Blahblahvampemer]

On 3/28/2015 Reever said: I do think that not having mothers stay at home anymore has impacted our society negatively. I feel blessed I was raised by a stay at home mom.

So do I. The shaming of women who stayed home started when I was a kid, and I hated the feminists for being so hypocritical by saying we had a choice. If I were married, staying home would have been ideal, and no one said you needed full walk-in closets, $80,000 worth of cars in the garage, and a McMansion you have to fill with stuff.

[sparklestar]

On 3/28/2015 Reever said: I do think that not having mothers stay at home anymore has impacted our society negatively. I feel blessed I was raised by a stay at home mom.

You can't generalize that situation. Not every child who had a stay at home mom was raised in a loving, caring, and nurturing atmosphere.

[K9buddy]

On 3/28/2015 sparklestar said:

On 3/28/2015 Reever said: I do think that not having mothers stay at home anymore has impacted our society negatively. I feel blessed I was raised by a stay at home mom.

You can't generalize that situation. Not every child who had a stay at home mom was raised in a loving, caring, and nurturing atmosphere.

Actually, she can generalize any situation she wants. Feel free to disagree with her if you want, but it's not your place to tell her what she can and can't do.

[sparklestar]

On 3/28/2015 K9buddy said:

On 3/28/2015 sparklestar said:

On 3/28/2015 Reever said: I do think that not having mothers stay at home anymore has impacted our society negatively. I feel blessed I was raised by a stay at home mom.

You can't generalize that situation. Not every child who had a stay at home mom was raised in a loving, caring, and nurturing atmosphere.

Actually, she can generalize any situation she wants. Feel free to disagree with her if you want, but it's not your place to tell her what she can and can't do.

Back at it again? What happened -- gave up on SuzyQ and you're going to start on me again.

And it's not YOUR place to tell me what I can and can't do. Practice what you preach.

[guatmum]

To generalize about working mothers v SAHMs is silly and demonstrates a lack of experience with a large and varied population. How children grow up isn't dependent on how many warm bodies are at home; it's dependent on stability, love, and good role modeling. As a teacher, I've seen great kids, utter brats, and neglected kids come from households where there is a SAHM. I've seen the same from households with working mothers and, in fact, the same from households with single mothers. Through 25+ years, I've learned that SAH v working v married v single has nothing to do with how a child turns out and therefore has nothing to do with the "impact" that that family has on society.

[K9buddy]

On 3/29/2015 sparklestar said:

On 3/28/2015 K9buddy said:

On 3/28/2015 sparklestar said:

On 3/28/2015 Reever said: I do think that not having mothers stay at home anymore has impacted our society negatively. I feel blessed I was raised by a stay at home mom.

You can't generalize that situation. Not every child who had a stay at home mom was raised in a loving, caring, and nurturing atmosphere.

Actually, she can generalize any situation she wants. Feel free to disagree with her if you want, but it's not your place to tell her what she can and can't do.

Back at it again? What happened -- gave up on SuzyQ and you're going to start on me again.

And it's not YOUR place to tell me what I can and can't do. Practice what you preach.

Oh wait......as I recall, you called me out on that thread as being someone who she should look out for. Unfortunately, that thread was deleted by the moderator due to your nasty comment about me.

[beautybee]

I'm thinking that the man who shot Malala Yousafzai in the face was not a feminist.

Women from the working class poor, and widowed wives, who cannot afford to stay at home deserve an equal wage for equal work. They deserve to get a job despite being born a female. This is where economics and feminism meet.

And if you like to vote and let your voice be heard, then thank the suffragettes who came way before Ms. Steinem.

[YorkieonmyPillow]

On 3/28/2015 blahblahvampemerblah said:

On 3/28/2015 suzyQ3 said:

On 3/28/2015 momcat said:

Curiosity made me open this post, and I wish I hadn't. I truly can't stand this woman.

May I ask why? I know that you are very politically conservative, but certainly you must favor equality and advancement for women.

I don't know where to start as a conservative woman. The misconceptions abound. Conservative does not mean wimp, weakness or any other negative word along those lines. One of the many reasons I lean this way is because we say you are woman, let's hear you roar. If a woman doesn't negotiate a good salary, that's on her. You want to be prosperous, then you follow the rules to get there and don't ask the government to fund your promiscuity. Put on your big-girl panties ladies and stop blaming someone else. I don't know a single woman on my side that doesn't have the ability to stand up for herself, her family, and her community. Not a stepford wife in the bunch. Would I have a problem with a husband representing the family? Not for a second.

Ditto. Glad to see some like minds.

[mstyrion 1]

On 3/29/2015 guatmum said:

To generalize about working mothers v SAHMs is silly and demonstrates a lack of experience with a large and varied population. How children grow up isn't dependent on how many warm bodies are at home; it's dependent on stability, love, and good role modeling. As a teacher, I've seen great kids, utter brats, and neglected kids come from households where there is a SAHM. I've seen the same from households with working mothers and, in fact, the same from households with single mothers. Through 25+ years, I've learned that SAH v working v married v single has nothing to do with how a child turns out and therefore has nothing to do with the "impact" that that family has on society.

Excellent points!

To blame single working mothers for the "downfall of society" is just another way to marginalize women. Women have been raising children alone or virtually alone for time immemorial. Men went off to war, worked 12 to 16 hours per day and traveled extensively. they were not heavily involved with raising children. In many cases the women had to work to make ends meet.

The June Cleaver idea of a mother was TV fiction.

Gloria helped women understand they were not chattel and they could make choices in how to live their lives. Choices that didn't necessarily have to mirror a fictionalized idea of what a good wife and mother had to be.