Wen - RTM Home & Away Duo - photo always been of BGT RTM, but they've just switched it to LAV RTM

It is kind of false advertising though when they have all those BGT pics and no BGT. Eventually, though I think you are right that they will have totally separate pricing for BGT just like 613.

That is very interesting. I love the BGT RTM and wish that I had ordered it. You are probably right about the price increase of this product.

I think it's very likely your theory is correct but I'm *hoping* you are wrong. I understand that the BGT costs more to make from the shows, but for a while the BGT was offered at a featured price of $26 or so for the 16oz- cheaper than the other CC's. I understand the point of a "featured price" but to then INCREASE the base price doesn't make sense to me. IMHO, if BGT is really a core formula, it should be priced the same and as a consumer it makes me feel a little "taken advantage of". The seasonals are also treatment based, so will we see a price increase there too?? The 613 is truely a "different" product than all the other CC's so it makes sense to me why that is priced higher. I'm having a hard time justifying the BGT, even though it's my favorite-it almost seems like it's popularity and Chaz pushing it extremely hard in the April shows just made QVC think they can charge more-and some people definitely will pay any amount of money for their hair, but I have to put a limit down somewhere. I'm not a chemist or do anything with product development but I have to imagine the profit margin on all Wen is really large-even if the BGT costs more, is it really $4 more or a more nominal amount?? There's definitely better "deals" on Wen if you're willing to try a non authorized vendor and I think if QVC ups the price on the BGT 32oz, I may shop elsewhere at least for that formula. Also, with 3 different price points for CC's now (core, BGT and 613) it just makes things more confusing and harder to budget for- it could turn more people off and ultimately bd a bad business decision for Chaz, the Wen team and QVC. I'm curious to see how things shake out.

ok, I just find this ironic. Last week they changed the RTM Duo photo from BGT to LAV... and now the LAV option is not available (CA is also sold out).

-- bebe

On 7/13/2014 bebe777 said:

ok, I just find this ironic. Last week they changed the RTM Duo photo from BGT to LAV... and now the LAV option is not available (CA is also sold out).

-- bebe

AND, also the free shipping. I'm bracing for a price increase when they ALL come back in stock.

Pure speculation on my part but I am expecting to see BGT Home & Away Replenishing Treatment Mist back in stock soon. Now that tonight is the last time for the $39.99 price, I expect to see it back at the higher price. I remember when I talked to CS a few months back they said they would be getting it back. Now that it has been marketed as a treatment based formula, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

On 8/31/2014 w84WEN said:

Pure speculation on my part but I am expecting to see BGT Home & Away Replenishing Treatment Mist back in stock soon. Now that tonight is the last time for the $39.99 price, I expect to see it back at the higher price. I remember when I talked to CS a few months back they said they would be getting it back. Now that it has been marketed as a treatment based formula, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

I hope you're right but I heard Jacque say during the show last night that it was the last order of the year. Maybe we'll see more in the New Year (that sounds so weird to say) . I know only SAM and Lavender is left.

On 7/4/2014 kh27 said: I think it's very likely your theory is correct but I'm *hoping* you are wrong. I understand that the BGT costs more to make from the shows, but for a while the BGT was offered at a featured price of $26 or so for the 16oz- cheaper than the other CC's. I understand the point of a "featured price" but to then INCREASE the base price doesn't make sense to me. IMHO, if BGT is really a core formula, it should be priced the same and as a consumer it makes me feel a little "taken advantage of". The seasonals are also treatment based, so will we see a price increase there too?? The 613 is truely a "different" product than all the other CC's so it makes sense to me why that is priced higher. I'm having a hard time justifying the BGT, even though it's my favorite-it almost seems like it's popularity and Chaz pushing it extremely hard in the April shows just made QVC think they can charge more-and some people definitely will pay any amount of money for their hair, but I have to put a limit down somewhere. I'm not a chemist or do anything with product development but I have to imagine the profit margin on all Wen is really large-even if the BGT costs more, is it really $4 more or a more nominal amount?? There's definitely better "deals" on Wen if you're willing to try a non authorized vendor and I think if QVC ups the price on the BGT 32oz, I may shop elsewhere at least for that formula. Also, with 3 different price points for CC's now (core, BGT and 613) it just makes things more confusing and harder to budget for- it could turn more people off and ultimately bd a bad business decision for Chaz, the Wen team and QVC. I'm curious to see how things shake out.

Chaz has said he doesn't quite consider BGT a core, but a step up from a core and not all the way to 613. The seasonals have already increased to $52 bucks and change so yes to that. For Team WEN it doesn't make much difference, he's always charged more for it and he's taking a cut of the Q business, so more is more, it's another revenue stream. The Q is just following the successful pricing structure he already had.

On 9/1/2014 Kjelle said:

On 7/4/2014 kh27 said: I think it's very likely your theory is correct but I'm *hoping* you are wrong. I understand that the BGT costs more to make from the shows, but for a while the BGT was offered at a featured price of $26 or so for the 16oz- cheaper than the other CC's. I understand the point of a "featured price" but to then INCREASE the base price doesn't make sense to me. IMHO, if BGT is really a core formula, it should be priced the same and as a consumer it makes me feel a little "taken advantage of". The seasonals are also treatment based, so will we see a price increase there too?? The 613 is truely a "different" product than all the other CC's so it makes sense to me why that is priced higher. I'm having a hard time justifying the BGT, even though it's my favorite-it almost seems like it's popularity and Chaz pushing it extremely hard in the April shows just made QVC think they can charge more-and some people definitely will pay any amount of money for their hair, but I have to put a limit down somewhere. I'm not a chemist or do anything with product development but I have to imagine the profit margin on all Wen is really large-even if the BGT costs more, is it really $4 more or a more nominal amount?? There's definitely better "deals" on Wen if you're willing to try a non authorized vendor and I think if QVC ups the price on the BGT 32oz, I may shop elsewhere at least for that formula. Also, with 3 different price points for CC's now (core, BGT and 613) it just makes things more confusing and harder to budget for- it could turn more people off and ultimately bd a bad business decision for Chaz, the Wen team and QVC. I'm curious to see how things shake out.

Chaz has said he doesn't quite consider BGT a core, but a step up from a core and not all the way to 613. The seasonals have already increased to $52 bucks and change so yes to that. For Team WEN it doesn't make much difference, he's always charged more for it and he's taking a cut of the Q business, so more is more, it's another revenue stream. The Q is just following the successful pricing structure he already had.

This thread gives some additional information about this topic...

From the very end of post #24 (almost at the end of the page) in the June 2014 - Running Tally of Wen Gallons Ordered thread:

Bamboo Green Tea Gallons

* Chaz on BGT (Lisa mentioned that surprisingly the hybrid BGT was the same price as the other gallons): Just this time. It will not be [the same price] next year, I'm almost positive. So this year it is because they realized you guys have been pounding down our doors for BGT. They said we'll do it this time but I guarantee you, in the future, it will be separated from the month of June. (5/31) -- It's in a different category. It should be in more of a Seasonal category. Next year, in the June gallons, it most likely won't be an option. (6/1) -- It's a stand alone product. It's more of a hybrid between the traditionals and 613. (6/2)