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Welcome to Wen, CGR! Ask as many questions as you wish; many here will be able to help you. Or scroll through the forum and you'll find answers to questions you didn't know you had.

I used 613 CC to make my hair strong and now I use it weekly as a first cleanse.

I use the Fig CC as my leave-in; no other stylers.

A lot of Wen is trial and error; keep that in mind.

Welcome to WEN, CGR! The best place to start is to follow the directions Chaz has for using WEN, see how that works for you, then if you need to make adjustments you start from there. 613 was designed to be used as an "added" treatment, most use it either mixed with another CC or occasionally. And, just start with one, no one can tell you which one will be better for your hair, it's more likely both will work. The directions are to use cc as leave in and follow with the styling creme, in wet hair, so start with that. Try just that at first so you can see how your hair looks without complicating it with a lot of styling products.

Welcome CGR!!! I will try to answer as many questions in your post as I can for you... I will start with my hair; it long (just above the small of my back), very straight, fine, thick as far as amount of hair, partially color treated because I am growing out my medium blonde color, and very healthy. I have used WEN exclusively since December 2009. As for 6 13 as a daily CC I am not able to use it daily; at the most I use it weekly. It is much more protein rich and my hair just is not in need of that much of it. If I use it too much my hair seems to "feel" more dry than when I uses any of the core formulas or kids formulas on my hair. Pomegranate (soy based) and Bamboo Green Tea (rice based) are both wonderful on my fine hair! I am partial to the BGT CC because of the amazing shine it delivers, along with leaving my hair feeling light and silky! The Pomegranate I think is maybe just a tad more moisturizing. You could experiment and even mix both together and see what works for your hair best. I do use a pump of CC as a leave in raked, twisted, and pushed into my midshaft through my ends. You may want to start out with a very small amount (like a pea to dime size) just through your midshaft and ends especially because that is likely the most processed part of your hair whether it be from color, heat styling, or just damage from harsh products used on your hair in the past. Now as far as styling products I will tell you it is really important to protect your hair from heat and even if you use no heat on your hair I feel the styling creme is a must in my opinion. Based on what you have said in your post thus far I would recommend the following formulas for fine hair: 6 13, Pomegranate, Cucumber Aloe, or Lavander. If you style your hair and enjoy volume I would suggest one of Chaz's mousses. I personally use the 613 Ultra Nourishing Mousse to help with volume, shine, and style hold. In the WEN line there is not a product called "hair spray" but he reccomends using his Volumizing Treatment Spray as a finishing spray for hold. I rarely do this because I am happy with the hold I get from my mousse. Remember this is just my experience so it does not mean you will have the same results or find a better combination of products that work best for you. Also never be affraid to call WEN customer service (the number on the back of the bottles of products) they are very helpful and always ready to help you get to the results you are looking for. Hope that helps a little and let us know how things are going for you; good luck!!!

CGR, welcome to the Wen Forum and welcome to the wonderful world of Wen. *s* HonnyBrown, okiebug and Nicole have all given you excellent suggestions. So I'm just going to add to what they've said.

As far as the scent formulas go, the ones you've selected have been used successfully by people with a wide range of hair needs. POM seems to work well for most people (Chaz calls it a "universal"). BGT is very popular though some people have found it to be drying (this may be due to the amino acid content). 613 which is the most concentrated amino acid formula is also very popular. The amino acids (protein components) can cause hair to get brittle or "strawlike". But that usually happens to people with healthy or thick/coarse hair which already has enough protein. Thin/fine hair like yours (and mine) frequently benefits from the amino acid complex. I use it every time I cleanse. -- I'd suggest that you incorporate the BGT & 613 into your routine, but just keep a watchful eye on your hair. Probably all you'll see will be improvements. *s*

For right now, I wouldn't recommend that you purchase any additional CCs or other products. But I'd recommend TT CC for your next purchase. Most of the people on this board, as well as the Wen models and QVC hosts all incorporate TT CC into their regular cleansing routine.

I have shoulder length, thin/fine/porous hair and this is my regular routine, using cool water to cleanse my hair...

* first cleanse - TT (rotating CA in for every fourth cleanse)

* second cleanse -- any Seasonal (rotating 613 in for every third cleanse)

* a quick burst of *cold* water on my scalp & hair (this helps close the hair cuticles)

* leave-in -- while I'm still in the shower with soaking wet hair, from the 16oz. bottle, I put a half-pump of 613 CC back into the lower half of my hair. Followed by one pump 613 SC, raking the last remnants through the top of my hair (don't flat palm it). Followed by three pumps 613 mousse scrunched into all of my hair (my hair is wavy).

* Then I blot dry my hair with an old, 100% cotton t-shirt (because the loops on towels can rough up your hair's cuticles and cause it to frizz).

* Then I air dry my hair.

I'd recommend reading the long running What Cleanser Did You Use Today? thread. It will give you more ideas for your Wen hair care routine. -- Don't try to read through the entire thread, it will give you Wen hair care overload. Once a day, just read that day's posts. That way it's fun and not work. *s*

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KISS... keep it simple *s* -- Don't confuse yourself. The TSV you've bought has the essential elements to start your Wen hair care routine (CC, SC, & RTM). You might think about adding a mousse or treatment oil in a month or two but, for now, you've got what you need. Wen has a learning curve, so you should get a handle on the basics before adding more steps.

The Wen Abbreviations Glossary has a list of the Wen product abbreviations that people use.

All of the links I've included are also in the Wen 101 thread. -- I put this thread together specifically with Wen newbies in mind. There's a lot of information in it: it's much like chapters in a book (posts #1-8 are where the information is). I'd suggest that you skim through it once a day, just to get an idea of how it's put together. Then just read what is of interest to you. Don't go on information overload. It will still be there the next day. -- Reading through the threads should help you to put together your Wen hair care routine. And, of course, you can ask any questions you want to ask in the Wen Forum. *s*

When you begin reading the Wen 101 thread, just focus on posts #1-3:

* post 1 - different types of CCs

* post 2 - most popular Wen products & reasons why people sometimes choose specific CC formulas

* post 3 - key Wen information threads

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* post 4 - Wen products - user threads

* post 5 - Wen hair care tips - user threads

* post 6 - fun Wen threads

* post 7 - Wen CC Discovery Kits

* post 8 - best values on Wen CCs & other products

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HOW TO START USING WEN

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HOW MANY PUMPS OF CC TO USE

Wen - you use fewer pumps for the 613 Cleansing Conditioner that for all other CCs & suggested numb...

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CLEANSING YOUR HAIR

* from tips from the Chaz Dean Studio site (initial post, post #3, & post #8) thread.

* Note: split the number of pumps in half and do two cleanses (i.e. rinse & repeat). Also, for the CC/SC leave-in, start out with just one pump of SC...

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5. How do you use the WEN® Cleansing Conditioners?

Rinse hair thoroughly, apply WEN® into your palms and rub together. Use 10-16 pumps for short hair, 16-24 pumps for medium length hair and 24-32 pumps for long hair. If your hair is longer/thicker you may need to increase the amount of pumps. Apply to scalp and hair, adding a splash of water to evenly distribute. WEN® has no harsh detergents or sodium lauryl sulfate, so it won't lather. Massage thoroughly into hair and leave on for the remainder of your shower. Rinse thoroughly and completely, massaging scalp and running fingers through to the ends. Apply 1/2 to 1 pump depending on hair length and texture as a leave-in conditioner to soaking wet hair. For best results we highly suggest you cleanse, rinse and repeat, using half the recommended pumps for the first cleanse, and the remaining half for the second cleanse. Unlike many ordinary shampoos, you may find you don't need to cleanse as often.

Above direction are for 6oz/16oz bottles, refer to label directions for other size bottles.

Immediately after, add 1-3 pumps of the Styling Creme of your choice to soaking wet hair starting at the back of the head and working thought to the ends.

Let hair dry naturally, style or wrap a towel around your head to absorb moisture. Do not abrasively dry your head with a towel as this will stress the hair and cause it to frizz.

Additional Suggestions

You can cleanse daily but when used properly you should only have to cleanse every 2-3 days. Our 16oz size may last you up to 6 weeks.

For extra hydrating and conditioning, you can use the Cleansing Conditioner as an overnight deep hydrating mask treatment. Simply leave on the hair after you have cleansed, cover hair with a shower cap or plastic bag overnight, and rinse out thoroughly in the morning.

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HOW TO FIND OUT WHICH CCs WORK BEST FOR YOU - try them (really)

While there are some ideas about which hair types do best with certain cleansing conditioners, for many people, those are not the CCs that work best for them. -- In the end, you will probably have to try a number of the CC formulas in order to find out what works best for your hair. These are the Cleansing Conditioner Discovery Kits available at QVC available at QVC.

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From the Wen 101 using Wen Products section (post #5), of the thread...

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Cleansing Conditioner - "how to" cleanse -- Second Cleanse Question --Wen 101 (a different Wen 101 thread) -- How do I use the CC for the very first time? -- Wen Bamboo Green Tea Question (how to cleanse) -- For how many minutes do you rinse? -- Cool vs. Cold Water -- Squeezing product into hair -- First or Second Cleansing -- Is anyone using Wen everyday? -- Do you love what WEN does for your hair, but...

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Cleansing Conditioner - "how to": starting out -- Wen - Cleansing Conditioner Discovery Kits available at QVC -- Wen?..Gluten Free? -- Ready to Try -- new user starter questions --- How do I use the CC for the very first time? -- Am I doing this right? -- Second Cleanse Question -- "Soaking" wet hair question --NEW User- Why is my hair oily!?!?! -- Please help me! ---- What Cleanser Did You Use Today? -- CC & other Wen products -- New to wen, need some advice please. -- In Love...

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Styling Creme -- Styling creme?? -- WEN Styling Creme? -- Styling Cream --Advise for Fine, Thin, and Naturally Curly hair -- Do you use GS and SC together? -- "Soaking" wet hair question -- How do I get the last of the 613 Styling Creme out of the bottle?

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Replenishing Treatment Mist -- Wen RTM puts moisture back into your hair-- How to handle between cleansing days -- What & How Do You Use RTM? -- Am I missing something with the mist? -- Using Wen RTM on your face --homemade RTM -- Help on RTM Recipe -- Homemade Spray Bottles!

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