Six Thirteen

Hi AmabO, I have 613 in my hair regimen (never tried/ordered the 613 SC, just regular SCs) but use it once in a while only as deep conditioner. When I notice that my curls are getting a little limp, about every 2.5-3 months (I cleanse once a week), I use my usual TT as 1st cleanse, mix of TT and Fig as 2nd cleanse, then I saturate my hair with the 613 CC, put a shower cap on and sit under a hooded hair dryer for 25mns or so, then rinse thoroughly. It's an immediate effect with my curls, they get much more tighter, so the 613 really restores elasticity as it promises. BUT after that, I have to have another deep treatment to give back some moisture to my hair. 613 really acts like a protein treatment for me. My favorite deep moisture treatment is mixing Fig CC with Fractionated coconut oil...hheeaaaven for my curls. The Remoist doesn't really do anything special. I've been using Wen for almost 3 years now and after much experimenting with 613, that's the perfect "rhythm" for my hair. Some can't use it at all, some use it every cleanse, I guess you'll have to "listen" to your hair needs LOL if that makes sense HTH

I have problems if I use it too often, but I know my hair has issues with protein. Does your hair have a history of protein issues? If not, I wouldn't worry too much. I used it every day for weeks before I had a problem with it and backed off immediately because another product gave me all kinds of problems with protein. (Keep in mind, I was willfully using the other product incorrectly because I had no idea the protein would cause a problem if I used it too often.)

Use it any way you want and just be mindful of any changes. I'm very vigilant because my own history tells me I should be, but that doesn't mean you need to be. Lots of people use it every day without any issue.

I think it's interesting that the people at WEN don't think

it acts like a protein for some, Maybe they just don't want

to acknowledge it or they really think it shouldn't be problem

for anyone.

There was a thread a while back that described how to determine if your hair was healthy or if it needed more amino acids/protein. You took a strand of your hair and pulled at it. How the strand reacted (elastic, no movement, snapping) determined which type of hair you have and how to best take care of it.

Does anyone have the link to this thread or remember what the hair test was?

It turned out that my hair needed regular amino acid treatment (which I had already suspected). Since the Seasonals first came out in Sept. 2011, I've been using a Seasonal or 613 for my second cleanse (I rotate 613 in for every third cleanse). I use TT for my first cleanse (and rotate CA in for every fourth cleanse).

I only use 613 products for my leave-in (CC, CS & mousse), and I believe they all have amino acids in them.

-- bebe

On 3/24/2014 amabO said:

I think it's interesting that the people at WEN don't think

it acts like a protein for some, Maybe they just don't want

to acknowledge it or they really think it shouldn't be problem

for anyone.

Beaches,

Yeah they probably haven't had a problem with it. I guess Amino Acids

aren't suppose to make hair brittle, otherwise they would say it's not

for everyone. But people seem to think that it is what's drying their hair

even though it's suppose to be moisturizing, I don't get why something

that's moisturizing.. is also drying -maybe it's not the amino acids.

On 3/24/2014 amabO said:

Beaches,

Yeah they probably haven't had a problem with it. I guess Amino Acids

aren't suppose to make hair brittle, otherwise they would say it's not

for everyone. But people seem to think that it is what's drying their hair

even though it's suppose to be moisturizing, I don't get why something

that's moisturizing.. is also drying -maybe it's not the amino acids.