Wenning -- outside the box?

Great stuff here for new Wenners!

I rarely use any CC as a leave-in, and when I do it's smaller than pea-sized. More like a smear that I work into my ends. Prior to starting WEN, I was shampooing daily as my scalp had been increasingly more oily for a year or so. I received some oil in a TSV kit and THAT has been the game-changer for me as far as how often I cleanse now. I'm only doing sporadic oil treatments and I can go every other day now without cleansing. When I start to do oil treatments more regularly, I expect the time between cleansing to widen out. I, too, have thin/fine hair and find bebe's product listing & how they work for her to be nearly identical to how they work for me; although, I haven't tried using CA CC yet. I routinely use TT CC as my 1st cleanse, then a seasonal or 613 as my 2nd cleanse. I hadn't been able to use SC as it left my hair heavy (POM) or flat (LAV)- and that was using a pea-sized amount. But, I tried CA SC today (1 pump) with a few spritzes of VTS, with some VTS at the roots and I'm in LOVE with my hair today!! I am pretty close to using the amount of CC that is rec. for my length (between chin & shoulder length) which is 18 pumps- 9 each cleanse from a 16oz bottle. But after reading bebe's confession, I may try tweaking the amounts I use-- THANKS!! **sorry for the wall of txt, posting from my iPad**

I think you can use too much. When I started using Wen. I was only doing a single cleanse and was using 24 pumps on my chin length hair. Wow! It was way too much. The cc was dripping off my hair and my hair was a fuzzy mess. I was about to give up. I got a tip from another Wenner on the forum at Chazdean.com. She told me to try using less. I cut it down to 12 pumps. I was still only doing 1 cleanse. That worked great for me. Now, I do two cleanses. I use about 7-8 pumps per cleanse. However, I could probably get away with 6 pumps per cleanse. My hair is really thick. I have enough hair on my head for two people. So yes, if you have fine/thin hair, you can use less. Just use the amount that works. Don't worry so much about rules/guidelines. I think Chaz just tells people to use that amount to start so people can learn. It is better to use too much than not enough. You just need to make sure to use the recommended amount to start and then tweak it from there. I think it's all about finding that magic amount. If you don't use enough, you won't get your hair clean. But, there is no need in using more than needed.

On 1/4/2014 Hilary77 said: I think you can use too much. When I started using Wen. I was only doing a single cleanse and was using 24 pumps on my chin length hair. Wow! It was way too much. The cc was dripping off my hair and my hair was a fuzzy mess. I was about to give up. I got a tip from another Wenner on the forum at Chazdean.com. She told me to try using less. I cut it down to 12 pumps. I was still only doing 1 cleanse. That worked great for me. Now, I do two cleanses. I use about 7-8 pumps per cleanse. However, I could probably get away with 6 pumps per cleanse. My hair is really thick. I have enough hair on my head for two people. So yes, if you have fine/thin hair, you can use less. Just use the amount that works. Don't worry so much about rules/guidelines. I think Chaz just tells people to use that amount to start so people can learn. It is better to use too much than not enough. You just need to make sure to use the recommended amount to start and then tweak it from there. I think it's all about finding that magic amount. If you don't use enough, you won't get your hair clean. But, there is no need in using more than needed.

I agree, well put.

On 1/4/2014 FinnyMinny said:

On 1/4/2014 Hilary77 said: I think you can use too much. When I started using Wen. I was only doing a single cleanse and was using 24 pumps on my chin length hair. Wow! It was way too much. The cc was dripping off my hair and my hair was a fuzzy mess. I was about to give up. I got a tip from another Wenner on the forum at Chazdean.com. She told me to try using less. I cut it down to 12 pumps. I was still only doing 1 cleanse. That worked great for me. Now, I do two cleanses. I use about 7-8 pumps per cleanse. However, I could probably get away with 6 pumps per cleanse. My hair is really thick. I have enough hair on my head for two people. So yes, if you have fine/thin hair, you can use less. Just use the amount that works. Don't worry so much about rules/guidelines. I think Chaz just tells people to use that amount to start so people can learn. It is better to use too much than not enough. You just need to make sure to use the recommended amount to start and then tweak it from there. I think it's all about finding that magic amount. If you don't use enough, you won't get your hair clean. But, there is no need in using more than needed.

I agree, well put.

Thanks FinnyMinny!!

my routine varies. sometimes double cleanse, sometimes single. sometimes use less, sometimes more. after a year and a half I can pretty much judge which one to choose. sometimes I cleanse because I want to - not have to.

I mostly do 2 cleanses and generally use less than recommended with great results.

I used 12 pumps today instead of 16. My hair feels great, but I will have to see how long it stays clean. I don't think I could get away with less than 12, though.

I have a few "off-label" uses for Wen... I've been using the 613 cc as body lotion. Girls and guys, this stuff is **amazing** for having soft gorgeous skin in dry winter weather!!! I've used other cc's as body lotion and they all work great, but the 613 brings it to a whole new level!! Plus, anyone with KP--the 613 works really well to keep that under control...no redness or bumps. I don't know how or why, but it's awesome!!

I've also been using the bamboo green tea cc in place of finishing creme. I've got a few tubes but I've been too lazy to get them out of storage....so at night I use the BGT when I pin up my hair. I apply a bit to a section, especially the ends, and twist it in, and brush the section with a round brush--then loop it around and pin it up. In the morning, I just take my curls down and round brush through--voila, gorgeous, moist Wen hair!!

My other thing is I use the oils on my scalp nightly and leave them in. I just use a few drops raked through before combing--then I do my usual night routine with the bamboo and pinning my hair up. The oils have helped keep my hair shiny, nourished--and I've not had a single broken hair or any damage that I normally see in bitter winter weather. Plus the oils have kept me from having any itchy scalp problems or dandruff... Love the oils!!

I think because these products are so treatment based, you can't mess it up...however you use them, they give you all kinds of benefits.