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reduced cost PLASTIC SURGERY- would you do it?

Started 1383475762.953 in Viewpoints | Last reply 1383595413.18 by rondell

I just saw on the news that patients are getting a reduced rate for plastic surgery by having surgeons in training do the procedures. (There is a Board Certified plastic surgeon attending).

The average savings is $2,000, but they limit the number of procedures to about 70 patients per year.

I am not in the market for plastic surgery, but it seems safer than going abroad, which some Americans are doing.

Would you do it?

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Complicated1383477381.4373402 PostsRegistered 4/16/2013

I would never volunteer for ANY medical procedure.

Cost is not what is stopping me, fear is.

aka...Marianne

occasional­ rain1383502089.84316751 PostsRegistered 8/21/2007

I wouldn't sign up for any unnecessary surgery, tests, medication, vaccines...

To me, a person's body is in balance and doing anything to disrupt that balance has consequences. Maybe not short term where cause and effect is obvious but long term where the cause can't be determined.

Jules52801383502267.8338710 PostsRegistered 6/25/2013Land of Oz
On 11/3/2013 lolakimono said:

I just saw on the news that patients are getting a reduced rate for plastic surgery by having surgeons in training do the procedures. (There is a Board Certified plastic surgeon attending).

The average savings is $2,000, but they limit the number of procedures to about 70 patients per year.

I am not in the market for plastic surgery, but it seems safer than going abroad, which some Americans are doing.

Would you do it?

That is comforting at least, to know some actual professional is around if things go south. My answer to that would be NO, I would not want to be any training surgeons "guinea pig" let alone have to pay for it at any bargain price. I am not in the market for plastic surgery either, but if I was, I would make sure I could afford the best or I wouldn't have it done.

"We are all faced with a series of great opportunities brilliantly disguised as impossible situations." ~ Charles R. Swindoll

Marienkaef­er21383503934.3277897 PostsRegistered 1/10/2007Beautiful San Juan Islands

No.

It's one thing to go to the cosmetology school and have your hair cut; hair grows back.

If they botch a lift procedure, you're stuck.

Last edited on 11/3/2013

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brewhaha1383504598.46741929 PostsRegistered 1/14/2007Sitting in front of my computer

That's sounds very uplifting. I'm in.

"I don't want clever conversation. I never want to work that hard."
Billy Joel's Just The Way You Are

RoughDraft1383505362.6138427 PostsRegistered 5/19/2007

The thing of it is, where do board certified plastic surgeons gain their experience? They've all gone through surgical residencies and/or integrated programs that can run as long as six years (combining two types). Somewhere along that line, a surgical resident has worked/assisted in plastic surgeries in order to graduate and apply for board certification.

That being said, no, I'm not considering it. That large rubber band under my chin seems to be working for now.{#emotions_dlg.laugh}

Because I grew up with this naive expectation of people doing right, I get shocked by every little violation.
Dave Eggers

Love Roses1383506466.55710148 PostsRegistered 1/10/2007

I don't and won't ever believe that any REAL surgeon reduces his/her costs. The fact remains, they pay for lights, heat, energy, supplies, machinery, instruments, staff, insurance, leases, and many other bills just to be a surgeon and practice. I have had surgeries where I am asked if a resident may assist to get in hours and some experience. I agree as the attending doctor is the authority. Most surgeries today are elective so you know you are taking a chance or a risk with many procedures. My surgeries were not for cosmetic reasons. A good plastic surgeon will also refuse a procedure you want if he/she feels it unnecessary and risky.

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JustMeMeli­ssa1383506512.29711600 PostsRegistered 4/29/2007Sweet Home Chicago...

Hayell to the no!!

"Smile though your heart is aching
Smile even though it's breaking
When there are clouds in the sky, you'll get by
If you smile through your fear and sorrow"
Nat King Cole


EMTHeart13

RINGER1383507030.93848 PostsRegistered 4/11/2007Home sweet home in beautiful northern Virginia!

No way in this world. They can practice on deceased people!

"You never know when the last time will be the last time."

happy hous­ewife1383507500.2930660 PostsRegistered 1/4/2007
I hate to burst you all's bubble but when you are in a teaching hospital all your care is done by interns, residents and fellows.The attendings only supervise your care and procedures. Sorry - but that is the way it is. No nurses would ever call an attending unless they were positive that what the resident or fellow ordered was incorrect and they wanted to run it past the attending before proceding.And , often , surgery is done by teachingstaff with the attending surgeon assisting. That is how doctors learn.

When faced with senseless drama, spiteful criticism or misguided opinions walking away is the best way to defend yourself.To respond with anger is an endorsement of their attitude. -Dodinsky

happy hous­ewife1383507627.56330660 PostsRegistered 1/4/2007
In answer to the Op's question - i would never even consider any surgery that wasn't absolutely necessary, so cosmetic surgery would never be on my radar at all.

When faced with senseless drama, spiteful criticism or misguided opinions walking away is the best way to defend yourself.To respond with anger is an endorsement of their attitude. -Dodinsky

Yuban31383508041.038870 PostsRegistered 11/1/2006

The phrase, "You get what you pay for" comes to mind on a "reduced cost" plastic surgery.

"To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funnybone." -Reba McEntire

"Housework can't kill you, but why take the chance?" - Phyllis Diller

Silver Lin­ing1383509384.1873616 PostsRegistered 4/15/2010

There are too many terribly unattractive examples, probably done by Board Certified plastic surgeons, so no, I wouldn't. You can't help but think who in the heck did Kenny Rogers' face and eye lift, or Barry Manilow's. It's not exactly the same, but it's still along the same lines as having dental work done by a student with an attending dentist supervising. Cleaning teeth by a student hygienist, maybe, but that's not the same thing as someone learning to use a scalpel or a drill. Irreparable damage can be done in a split second.

chrystaltr­ee1383510193.73711933 PostsRegistered 5/10/2010

Interesting questions. Maybe. The surgeons are NOT newly minted baby docs fresh put of med school. They are docs completing their residencies or fellowships, they have clinical experience. They are closely supervised by an instructor. I'd do it for a minor or intermediate procedure.

Pqfan1383510365.4276003 PostsRegistered 2/15/2006

No way!{#emotions_dlg.scared}

Jules52801383510573.0138710 PostsRegistered 6/25/2013Land of Oz
On 11/3/2013 happy housewife said: I hate to burst you all's bubble but when you are in a teaching hospital all your care is done by interns, residents and fellows.The attendings only supervise your care and procedures. Sorry - but that is the way it is. No nurses would ever call an attending unless they were positive that what the resident or fellow ordered was incorrect and they wanted to run it past the attending before proceding.And , often , surgery is done by teachingstaff with the attending surgeon assisting. That is how doctors learn.

No bubble burst, when a person is admitted to a teaching hospital they are normally aware of it, and if not then it's a violation of their rights. Some people don't care, and of course all doctors and surgeons have to learn somewhere on someone(s) but that wasn't what the OP asked. She asked if people had a choice to save money on a procedure by choosing surgeons in training, would they. Big difference than being in a training hospital.

"We are all faced with a series of great opportunities brilliantly disguised as impossible situations." ~ Charles R. Swindoll

Silver Lin­ing1383511121.293616 PostsRegistered 4/15/2010
On 11/3/2013 chrystaltree said:

Interesting questions. Maybe. The surgeons are NOT newly minted baby docs fresh put of med school. They are docs completing their residencies or fellowships, they have clinical experience. They are closely supervised by an instructor. I'd do it for a minor or intermediate procedure.

You're correct about their level of training, they are not beginners by any means. According to what people have told me, something like inserting or removing breast implants is a pretty much cut (no pun intended) and dry procedure that can be redone if desired.

glb6131383511326.910890 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004
I don't understand why anyone would want to have plastic surgery except in the case of deformity or illness.

adelle381383514826.5177857 PostsRegistered 12/22/2007

I wouldn't sign up for any medically unnecessary procedures because of the health risks and because I would be afraid of coming out looking weird.

"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others."

Groucho Marx


Cats30001383520420.463361 PostsRegistered 10/7/2013

I would not do plastic surgery unless I needed it because of disfigurement of some kind. Surgery of any kind can be dangerous. It should be reserved for the most serious of incidents. It should be done by surgeons who have years of experience with the procedure. When that's the case, price isn't a consideration. {#emotions_dlg.scared}

winamac11383520492.71730392 PostsRegistered 12/29/2010Indiana
On 11/3/2013 EMTHeart13 said:

Hayell to the no!!

L M Freaking @ Off!!

H T T N for me too!

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Cats30001383520513.967361 PostsRegistered 10/7/2013
On 11/3/2013 Silver Lining said:
On 11/3/2013 chrystaltree said:

Interesting questions. Maybe. The surgeons are NOT newly minted baby docs fresh put of med school. They are docs completing their residencies or fellowships, they have clinical experience. They are closely supervised by an instructor. I'd do it for a minor or intermediate procedure.

You're correct about their level of training, they are not beginners by any means. According to what people have told me, something like inserting or removing breast implants is a pretty much cut (no pun intended) and dry procedure that can be redone if desired.

No surgical procedure is "cut and dry". Every surgical procedure enters your body and, at that point, anything can happen even with the most experienced of doctors.

lovesrecess1383525817.9213594 PostsRegistered 7/14/2008Texas

I have seen too many faces that were done by highly-qualified, trained plastic surgeons that were terrible....no way I would volunteer to be someone's guinea pig

Kalli1383526746.342990 PostsRegistered 10/19/2004

Most of the procedures I've had done have had drs. in training participate (with supervision) because the med center near me is a teaching facility.

Don't know if I'd be brave enough to ever have surgery on my face that wasn't absolutely necessary. I've seen the pictures online of plastic surgery gone bad and it's frightening!

-Kalli

No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill

rondell1383533910.66713373 PostsRegistered 12/17/2009USA

I won't put myself through unnecessary pain. I don't judge anyone who has plastic surgery, however. We all have the privilege of making personal decisions for ourselves. The money is probably a big motivator for some, and the doctors need the practice. I can see how this relationship could work out for both sides.

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