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kirk douglas and natalie wood?

Started 1370299823.48 in Viewpoints | Last reply 1370370747.673 by neala

i did an internet search on kirk douglas after reading about michael douglas' latest "oral" statement, and was surprised to read this.

i will not speculate if it is true or not......but as a woman i found it to be most unnerving.

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scotttie1370299860.5536392 PostsRegistered 6/15/2006

What did it say? Basically...

I read his autobiography and don't recall anytthing about Natalie.

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adoreqvc1370299933.1675452 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004

sorry forgot to add the internet link:

http://gawker.com/5893793/did-robert-downey-jr-really-just-accuse-kirk-douglas-of-a-brutal-rape

if it really is true i doubt kirk douglas would include it in his autobiography.

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Shelbelle1370300070.38334435 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004

Like father, like son. Kirk and Michael, quite the womanizers!!!

deepwaterd­otter1370300402.42312612 PostsRegistered 9/1/2005America's Dairyland

Has this ever been substantiated? I've heard it has been going around Hollywood for a few years.

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adoreqvc1370300632.695452 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004

womanizing is one thing.....immoral yes especially if married, but rape is a violent controlling horrific act.

when big box movie stars committed horrific acts the studio heads usually swept everything under the rug those years, not to ruin the star's image, or loose a great deal of movie profits.

if true i cannot even image the pain and torment which natalie suffered from the violent appalling act. sometimes women have continuing nightmares and never forget, because it is like a video that plays over and over again, never to cease.

like they say "that head has no conscience".

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tansy1370301364.1626806 PostsRegistered 4/19/2005

What a creepy story, if true.

scotttie1370312559.99736392 PostsRegistered 6/15/2006

I went and read your link adoreqvc.

Something about it rings true to me. As I recall from his biography Douglas had a lot of anger in him.

"Oh wad some power the giftie gie us To see oursel's as others see us!"
--Robert Burns

adoreqvc1370337297.725452 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004
hi beammeupscottie,
i never read kirk's biography and now i certainly won't.
kirk douglas probably did and still does have a lot of anger.
from what that article said, evidently he never had, nor has had any remorse or guilt to date, for what he did to natalie wood, if it is true.
now if what that article stated is really true i cannot help wonder how many other women he may have also violated in that horrific rape beating fashion, which he to date has also never been convicted. i also wonder how many leading men did the same?
how many other victims are still alive and suffering continued mental and emotional torment due to kirk's horrific beastly actions, and the above actions of others mentioned herein?
i guess still waters run really deep in the douglas family, and i also wonder if robert wagner knew what happened to natalie before they married........but then there is so much controversy about his involvement in her death, so all i can say is hollywood had, and still has, some really violent characters in their "kingdom of untouchable stars", and the casting couch still lives on.
no one should be above the law, and i also blame the studio heads who offered to sweep unsavory horrific unconscionable incidents under the rug, pay off the victims and their families for continued silence, while allowing the perpetrators to continue, as though nothing happened, and no crimes were committed?
also it is a well known fact that studio heads, directors and producers all did the same you must sleep with me scenario if you want to get the part and be made famous. the casting couch was well known then and still exists.
all the above was enacted while the perpetrators remained free to continue their torment and brutalization of others.
On 6/3/2013 beammeupscottie said:

I went and read your link adoreqvc.

Something about it rings true to me. As I recall from his biography Douglas had a lot of anger in him.

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adelle381370354408.6678025 PostsRegistered 12/22/2007

It's amazing that people will take a rumor of a rumor and spread it around as if it's fact.

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WillEscape­CAsoon1370354992.693185 PostsRegistered 3/5/2009

Maybe God has already started the beginning of his payback. Trapped in a body that barely functions for years and barely able to do anything about it.

croemer1370359581.95774572 PostsRegistered 1/29/2009
On 6/3/2013 beammeupscottie said:

I went and read your link adoreqvc.

Something about it rings true to me. As I recall from his biography Douglas had a lot of anger in him.

ITA and I have read numerous books about Natalie and believe I recall this story without naming the actor. This may account for Natalie's promiscuity...she began having 5ex very young. Her mother was sumpin else too.

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croemer1370359688.4474572 PostsRegistered 1/29/2009

I also read Kirk's book and he had affairs shamelessly with many a number of women...he seemed to have little to no remorse.

"Well Bless Your Pea Pickin' Heart."

Preds1370359988.220989 PostsRegistered 12/17/2012Here and there

I remember years ago reading about a young starlet that he also raped. She was extoring money from him to keep silent and was found dead outside her apartment one night. Never found her killer. Wish I could remember the movie she was in with him or her name, but I can't. He denied knowing her until they reminded him he worked with her in the film. She was just a nobody to him.

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scotttie1370360111.93336392 PostsRegistered 6/15/2006

croemer remember the story in his book about the woman who was anti-semitic and how Kirk got even with her? Apparently he liked to use his "manhood" as a "weapon of violence".

"Oh wad some power the giftie gie us To see oursel's as others see us!"
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croemer1370360257.36374572 PostsRegistered 1/29/2009
On 6/4/2013 beammeupscottie said:

croemer remember the story in his book about the woman who was anti-semitic and how Kirk got even with her? Apparently he liked to use his "manhood" as a "weapon of violence".

OMGosh I had forgotten that one. The men in that family have issues! Wasn't Kirk's Dad a real dictator in the home too when Kirk was growing up...if I recall correctly??

"Well Bless Your Pea Pickin' Heart."

croemer1370360296.45774572 PostsRegistered 1/29/2009
On 6/4/2013 Predsfan said:

I remember years ago reading about a young starlet that he also raped. She was extoring money from him to keep silent and was found dead outside her apartment one night. Never found her killer. Wish I could remember the movie she was in with him or her name, but I can't. He denied knowing her until they reminded him he worked with her in the film. She was just a nobody to him.

WOW!

"Well Bless Your Pea Pickin' Heart."

terrier31370360319.72726509 PostsRegistered 7/13/2007

Remember the whole "LuKe & Laura" storyline on General Hospital?

They took something violent and made it romantic. I was in college back then and found the whole thing very weird.

Hildegarde­ Withers1370361148.47323310 PostsRegistered 7/3/2008
On 6/4/2013 terrier2 said:

Remember the whole "LuKe & Laura" storyline on General Hospital?

They took something violent and made it romantic. I was in college back then and found the whole thing very weird.

I was surprised there wasn't an uproar about that storyline.


scotttie1370361346.4836392 PostsRegistered 6/15/2006
On 6/4/2013 croemer said:
On 6/4/2013 beammeupscottie said:

croemer remember the story in his book about the woman who was anti-semitic and how Kirk got even with her? Apparently he liked to use his "manhood" as a "weapon of violence".

OMGosh I had forgotten that one. The men in that family have issues! Wasn't Kirk's Dad a real dictator in the home too when Kirk was growing up...if I recall correctly??


I can't really remember about his dad. Seems Kirk was ashamed of him?

"Oh wad some power the giftie gie us To see oursel's as others see us!"
--Robert Burns

Hildegarde­ Withers1370361766.423310 PostsRegistered 7/3/2008

n/m

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adelle381370366648.5638025 PostsRegistered 12/22/2007

I can't believe the mixture of rumor and unsubstantiated allegations that people are pulling from various events or supposed events that occurred 60 years ago. It is disrespectful to the victims as well as slinging mud based on an internet game of Chinese Whispers.

"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others."

Groucho Marx


PatsyCline1370369012.3771120 PostsRegistered 5/28/2012midwest
On 6/4/2013 adelle38 said:

I can't believe the mixture of rumor and unsubstantiated allegations that people are pulling from various events or supposed events that occurred 60 years ago. It is disrespectful to the victims as well as slinging mud based on an internet game of Chinese Whispers.

I agree.

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Lucky Charm1370369587.8936140 PostsRegistered 2/29/2008

Of course you can't.

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HiLo1370370448.3376663 PostsRegistered 8/28/2007

What does all this matter now? The poor woman isn't even here to tell her side of the story. He thinks he was a lot more than he was.

neala1370370747.6732512 PostsRegistered 10/31/2012City by the bay
Entertaining 2 see how posters take rumor after rumor & run w them thread after thread lol Guess if its on the internet it MUST be true.........:)




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