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Taking Off Work For Funeral - Sick or Vacation?

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I had to take off last week, I took it as a sick day. It was questioned that is should be vacation. my boss agreed with me, thank goodness. It's not like I was having fun! We don't have personal days it's either one or the other.

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AnikaBrodie1285189529.97715388 PostsRegistered 1/29/2008The NE state of mountains and valleys

Was it for a family member? If so, a sick day would be appropriate. If not, a vacation day might be charged since you don't have personal days.

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LImom1285189595.31385 PostsRegistered 9/1/2008The Gold Coast

my dh was just telling me that many places he knows of (he is in finance) that now dont designate what the days off are. when you are hired, you are given, say 21 days total off for the year, and only 5 can carry over to the next year. so if you take a sick day, or a vacation day or a personal day, or if your kid is sick, they just drop off one by one. people call in alot less because they dont want their vaca time taken away.

circles1285189613.6917693 PostsRegistered 5/11/2005N.J.

Was it a family member???? Does your company give you a paid day off for a family death...or do you still have to use those two options....In your case I would have used a sick day, too....

funinthesun1285189647.4677348 PostsRegistered 11/11/2006Colorado

It was our neighbor of 34 years. so no, not family but still close

erica g1285189716.8873594 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004So Cal

For a funeral, I would use a sick day and I have sick and vacation days. I have in the past and it was never questioned. I don't get personal days like some of my friends do.

Jen-PT1285189727.051796 PostsRegistered 9/14/2007West Coast
On 9/22/2010 LImom said:

my dh was just telling me that many places he knows of (he is in finance) that now dont designate what the days off are. when you are hired, you are given, say 21 days total off for the year, and only 5 can carry over to the next year. so if you take a sick day, or a vacation day or a personal day, or if your kid is sick, they just drop off one by one. people call in alot less because they dont want their vaca time taken away.

This is how it works at my DHs job as well. I'm self-employed so when I "call in sick", my patients don't get seen and I don't get paid.

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csv3201285189746.126724 PostsRegistered 6/24/2007

Neither. It's a bereavment day.

purrmom1285189794.8133400 PostsRegistered 5/27/2010Mid-MO

Where I worked, it would have had to be a vacation day. For funerals for immediate family members there were bereavement days. I definitely would not have been allowed to take a sick day.

ennui1285189806.65319957 PostsRegistered 4/17/2007

Some employers have 3 days bereavement leave for family members, so it's neither sick nor vacation.

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maddiecat1285189893.525622 PostsRegistered 5/24/2006

I agree it should be a bereavement day.

brenbren1285190196.691215 PostsRegistered 11/28/2007The South

I'm now retired, but as a federal government employee we have sick and annual leave that is earned each pay period. Annual leave was always used for funerals, even relatives. Sick leave is when the employee is sick or has doctor's appt. If a family member is sick, it is then called Family Medical Leave and sick leave is used.

RocketMom1285190462.232709 PostsRegistered 9/23/2007

Most companies would require it to be a vacation day since it was not an immediate family member. Unfortunately, there is no requirement that you have "fun" on a vacation day. That said, I am glad your boss allowed you to take a vacation day. I can't believe someone "questioned" you on this. Was it the vacation police??? Sorry for your loss of a dear neighbor.

Tray-c1285191133.34965 PostsRegistered 2/20/2009
On 9/22/2010 maddiecat said:

I agree it should be a bereavement day.

Agreed. Are you sure bereavement is not an option?

Princess A­nastasia1285192639.547484 PostsRegistered 3/5/2010

What does your Employees' Guidelines/Policies say to do? That's what I would follow. If you don't have any, then whatever boss says, rules.

We have bereavement for immediate family only. If it's not immediate family and we want to go to someone's funeral, then we use our own PTO days.

HeiressIn-­FL1285193534.386507 PostsRegistered 4/9/2007

You don't have bereavement leave???{#emotions_dlg.blink}

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mimicat1285193728.8731536 PostsRegistered 3/15/2010

If it wasn't a family member, then it should've been a vacation day.

Krimpette1285194227.6710313 PostsRegistered 9/7/2007MidAtlantic

When I was working, we provided some bereavement leave, but we were very specific as to which family members "qualified". A friend or neighbor, no matter how close, would not have qualified. Additionally, we ultimately combined sick leave and vacation and called it "paid time off". It would have been a PTO day that one would have used in this case, where I worked.

Allegheny1285194233.851399 PostsRegistered 7/14/2007PA
On 9/22/2010 brenbren said:

I'm now retired, but as a federal government employee we have sick and annual leave that is earned each pay period. Annual leave was always used for funerals, even relatives. Sick leave is when the employee is sick or has doctor's appt. If a family member is sick, it is then called Family Medical Leave and sick leave is used.

Hi brenben, I am a fellow retired federal employee, retired 2008.

We were permitted to use sick leave for funerals of family members. If I remember correctly, if we were the family member making the arrangements for the funeral, we could use up to three days of sick leave. The use of sick leave was OPM policy, but the 3 days for the funeral arrangements may have been our agency policy. If it was a non-family member we were supposed to use annual leave, but I know there were supervisors who would approve SL depending upon the personal relationship between the employee and the deceased.

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Nascardiva1285194719.9436571 PostsRegistered 6/27/2005Maryland

I'm thankful that my company has berveavement leave; no vacation or sick time has to be used. They give us three days for immediate family and one day for aunts/uncles, etc.

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brenbren1285195051.4071215 PostsRegistered 11/28/2007The South
On 9/22/2010 PamK said:
On 9/22/2010 brenbren said:

I'm now retired, but as a federal government employee we have sick and annual leave that is earned each pay period. Annual leave was always used for funerals, even relatives. Sick leave is when the employee is sick or has doctor's appt. If a family member is sick, it is then called Family Medical Leave and sick leave is used.

Hi brenben, I am a fellow retired federal employee, retired 2008.

We were permitted to use sick leave for funerals of family members. If I remember correctly, if we were the family member making the arrangements for the funeral, we could use up to three days of sick leave. The use of sick leave was OPM policy, but the 3 days for the funeral arrangements may have been our agency policy. If it was a non-family member we were supposed to use annual leave, but I know there were supervisors who would approve SL depending upon the personal relationship between the employee and the deceased.

I'm enjoying my retirement, I hope you are too.

Hi PamK, I am loving retirement. I retired 12/1999. My youngest child graduated from college 5/1999, so after 30 1/2 years it was time. You are right about the relationship of supervisor and employee.

kitkom1285199948.3235646 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004

Neither, it would be a personal business day.

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biancardi1285201098.81747273 PostsRegistered 11/7/2005

well, it is a personal day, which is a vacation day. I've taken vacation days that were not fun days.

Funerals are not sick days, imho

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colson1285201623.697438 PostsRegistered 10/23/2007East Coast

In your case, you and your boss are right. However, employee guidelines call for all sorts of versions of this. Some companies designate different policies for direct family members vs "other". Some companies have PTO (personal time off) packages, others split it into categories. I think the pTO systems is the smartest, but either way we deal with what our companies offer. You are fortunate to have been able to go to this funeral - sometimes you get stuck at work and can't.

note2baby1285207922.572578 PostsRegistered 1/23/2007Northern CA.

That is what is so good about a Union job.... 3 days funeral leave for an in town immediate family death and a week off paid for out of state.

humpty dum­pty1285211929.514079 PostsRegistered 8/19/2007Western PA

My last place of employment, AT&T, allowed us 5 days for bereavement if it was an immediate family member ... one day for non-family member ...

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