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Waterford Crystal -- made everywhere except Ireland

Started 1300725064.423 in Q Did What? | Last reply 1301340180.157 by suzyQ3

Oh, the small factory they now have in Ireland does make a few of their "prestige" pieces and some older pieces may still bear the "Made in Ireland" sticker, but other than that, Waterford crystal is outsourced, mainly to Eastern Europe.

One review of a set of beverage glasses noted that the sticker on the box said "Made in Germany." Perhaps QVC should not put "Made in Ireland" in its description of every single Waterford item offered.

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DrPhil1300733278.8532175 PostsRegistered 12/2/2008

I knew when they showed up on SNBC and the Q at cheap prices something had to be funny. So I guess St Pat's Day is no longer Irish-made but Irish-inspired...much like those Crapcakes were Maryland Style

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foobar1300733552.403527 PostsRegistered 6/9/2008

Well the rep has Albany cutting some crystal so I guess anyone can do it. It will be made in China soon.

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Timneh1300736139.9871344 PostsRegistered 4/23/2006

Maybe the box was made in Germany. Maybe they should say "Irish style" or "Irish inspired."

csv3201300736444.1376724 PostsRegistered 6/24/2007

Not surprising to hear this being Waterford Crystal declared bankruptcy in January of 2009.

suzyQ31300737827.6124108 PostsRegistered 3/15/2007
On 3/21/2011 mj198 said:

Not surprising to hear this being Waterford Crystal declared bankruptcy in January of 2009.

Yes, the history has been turbulent. In early 2009, Waterford went into receivership, and the employees were pretty much left out in the cold. In March 2009 Waterford Wedgewood was sold to to a U.S. equity firm that formed WWRD Holdings Ltd to manage the brands.

The visitor center and factory closed, but a new facility opened last year. They produce very little crystal now. The rep I spoke to said that the outsourced items are of the same high quality. I can't speak to that, but as far as I'm concerned, if it's not made in Waterford County, Ireland, it's not Waterford crystal.

FYI: Heritage Irish Crystal (link), owned by a long-time Waterford employee, still makes mouth-blown, handcut lead crystal in Waterford County. It is the only one left in Ireland to do so.

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Timneh1300741013.351344 PostsRegistered 4/23/2006

Just for the heck of it, looking at Waterford on QVC.com...

H192137 - Waterford Crystal Lamp


$460 for a LAMP???

H98773 This set made in China

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DrPhil1300741896.0132175 PostsRegistered 12/2/2008
On 3/21/2011 suzyQ3 said:

FYI: Heritage Irish Crystal (link), owned by a long-time Waterford employee, still makes mouth-blown, handcut lead crystal in Waterford County. It is the only one left in Ireland to do so.

Where are Gallway and that Tipperary Crystal made?

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suzyQ31300743366.66324108 PostsRegistered 3/15/2007
On 3/21/2011 DrPhil said:
On 3/21/2011 suzyQ3 said:

FYI: Heritage Irish Crystal (link), owned by a long-time Waterford employee, still makes mouth-blown, handcut lead crystal in Waterford County. It is the only one left in Ireland to do so.

Where are Gallway and that Tipperary Crystal made?

Galway still may be made in Ireland, but it's doubtful, given that it is part of company that has other brands. I came across an article about Irish crystal that was written a couple years ago around the time that Waterford was going into receivership, and the author cautioned that most companies "fudge" the issue of where the crystal is both blown and cut. But Galway, judging by its prices, is not quite in the same league as the old Waterford or the company to which I linked whose crystal is all mout-blown and hand-cut. I think I have a piece that I puchased many years ago.

I'm not familiar with Tipperary.

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suzyQ31300744289.98324108 PostsRegistered 3/15/2007
On 3/21/2011 Parrot Person said:

Just for the heck of it, looking at Waterford on QVC.com...

H192137 - Waterford Crystal Lamp


$460 for a LAMP???

H98773 This set made in China

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PP, I think that's a very fair price for the lamp.

That second link is to some kind of ceramic set. Apparently, "Waterford" not only outsources but is now selling all sorts of non-crystal stuff.

"We need science, and we need humanity. Without these we will revisit the Dark Ages"

The fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion -- Arnold H. Glasow

suzyQ31300744940.9624108 PostsRegistered 3/15/2007

HSN has six Waterford items (link) listed. Five are from China, and one is from Germany.

"We need science, and we need humanity. Without these we will revisit the Dark Ages"

The fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion -- Arnold H. Glasow

Timneh1300746131.661344 PostsRegistered 4/23/2006

I'd rather have something made in Germany than Asia. I know crystal beads are not fine leaded crystal, but Austrian crystals (Swarovski) are the BEST. China does some knock-off crystal beads, but when you hold a Swarovski next to a China-made cheapie, the difference is VAST. (My point being, Austria is pretty close to Germany...)

evelyner1300800890.5672498 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004

I remember going to visit the factory in Ireland, at the time they made everything there, how sad.

cookie51300971089.123364 PostsRegistered 11/15/2007Texas Hill Country

I also remember going to the factory in Ireland. It was a great tour and this is very sad.

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guccicolle­ctor1300996737.7685 PostsRegistered 6/3/2007

I agree with SuzyQ3's post: If it's not made in Waterford, Ireland, then it's not true Waterford crystal no matter what it's called.

I have HERITAGE CRYSTAL & the custs are better than Waterford & it's not as expensive. Blarney Woolen Mills website sells Heritage & Gallway crystal.

ennui1300996966.13319957 PostsRegistered 4/17/2007
On 3/21/2011 mj198 said:

Not surprising to hear this being Waterford Crystal declared bankruptcy in January of 2009.

And they almost closed up shop for good.

Young people don't buy fine china and crystal. If it can't go in the dishwasher, they don't want it. The market for luxury goods is very, very small.

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suzyQ31301002188.21724108 PostsRegistered 3/15/2007
On 3/24/2011 neimanshopper said:

I agree with SuzyQ3's post: If it's not made in Waterford, Ireland, then it's not true Waterford crystal no matter what it's called.

I have HERITAGE CRYSTAL & the custs are better than Waterford & it's not as expensive. Blarney Woolen Mills website sells Heritage & Gallway crystal.

If you're talking about Heritage Irish crystal, I discovered it by reading a blog complaining about what's happened with Waterford crystal. I went to the site and was blown away. I included a link to it in an earlier post here. It is all mouth-blown, hand-cut, made with the older techniques, and all in Waterford, Ireland.

I checked out the Blarney Woolen Mills site you mention and saw no Heritage Irish crystal. There are three or four sites that do offer it. If anyone is interested, I can post a link to the one that has both an extensive selection and the best prices by far. It is not inexpensive, though.

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Tuco1301004151.4333377 PostsRegistered 3/1/2008Where the Greys fly

Another example of a long established company resting on its laurels and cheaping it out, hoping their "brand name" is enough to fool the masses into buying their product. Really sad. It used to mean something to own a piece of Waterford. Now it becoming like the junk in Walmart.

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ennui1301004947.58319957 PostsRegistered 4/17/2007
On 3/24/2011 Tuco said:

Now it becoming like the junk in Walmart.

I think that's a little extreme (and uncalled for). There is some very nice crystal made in other places.

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seabird1301029720.87238 PostsRegistered 6/13/2007the Beach

I really prefer the more modern cuts and shapes from Orrefors, but it is very expensive. I was given a wedding bowl about 25 years ago from this Swedish company, and it is exquisite. www.orrefors.us

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nutmeg31301030432.0474545 PostsRegistered 6/18/2007NJ
On 3/24/2011 Tuco said:

Another example of a long established company resting on its laurels and cheaping it out, hoping their "brand name" is enough to fool the masses into buying their product. Really sad. It used to mean something to own a piece of Waterford. Now it becoming like the junk in Walmart.

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Young people today do not care about having crystal and china to set a table. The old pieces I have will always be worth money. I would have loved to buy a Waterford clock from Ireland, but not China.

Andrewcoco1301050659.843156 PostsRegistered 8/30/2010
On 3/24/2011 ennui said:
On 3/24/2011 Tuco said:

Now it becoming like the junk in Walmart.

I think that's a little extreme (and uncalled for). There is some very nice crystal made in other places.

No I agree with Tuco...I am Irish and would only want real Waterford on my table made in Ireland. I don't want cheap "simulated" crystal MASS PRODUCED in China. And if you truly believe that the crystal SOLD IN WALMART is very nice, I have a bridge to sell you in Antarctica!!!

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DrPhil1301053460.562175 PostsRegistered 12/2/2008
On 3/24/2011 ennui said:

I think that's a little extreme (and uncalled for). There is some very nice crystal made in other places.

Yeah, Ennui, Walmart is truly the place to buy the finest crystal. Hopefully Waterford will have a a Walmart or Target line for you shortly. You will be the envy of your trailer park.

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suzyQ31301071708.1124108 PostsRegistered 3/15/2007
On 3/24/2011 seabird said:

I really prefer the more modern cuts and shapes from Orrefors, but it is very expensive. I was given a wedding bowl about 25 years ago from this Swedish company, and it is exquisite. www.orrefors.us

When we bought china, silver, and crystal a few years after we were married, we choose Orrefors wine glasses. It's a beautiful pattern, although not really ideal for drinking wine.

But there's something about the intricacy of the more old-fashioned cut crystal that calls to me. I wouldn't necessarily want it for stem or barware, but I would love a bowl or vase. I'm looking at several of the Heritage Irish pieces.

"We need science, and we need humanity. Without these we will revisit the Dark Ages"

The fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion -- Arnold H. Glasow

muffinsmom1301289411.2531 PostsRegistered 5/13/2007

Glad I went in 2005 and got the pieces that I wanted. The factory tour and showroom were amazing. I am so sad that they have disappeared. :-(

missyw11301335004.18331980 PostsRegistered 3/4/2007

Shop nbc's Waterford is nOT from Ireland. China.

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