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Bails that have a movable partial ring inside...

This is a mystery to me. I first thought this ring inside was for a smaller chain, but looking at it again I'm not sure if it would fall right just using the lower part of the bail. Can someone please explain these types of double bails and their use? They are made to be pushed aside and then brought out again? That little piece seems hard to adjust and easier to push back than to bring out again. Any help would be appreciated!

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Re: Bails that have a movable partial ring inside...

I'm having a hard time visualizing; can you give the item number with a bail like this?

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Re: Bails that have a movable partial ring inside...

You mean like this? (Ripka's new zodiac enhancer).

I'm curious about the same thing.

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Re: Bails that have a movable partial ring inside...

Yes, that's the type of bail I mean. Thanks for posting the photo. If you used the bottom of the bail for a thin chain it seems like it would fall forward. There has to be a reason to do the bail that way. Anyone know? It is meant to be moved out of the way and returned when needed? But needed for what?

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Re: Bails that have a movable partial ring inside...

Blondelle, I believe it acts like a safety catch for the bale. If that little loop wasn't in there, when you opened the bale to place it on a chain or remove it, the bale would be removable or loose - you could lose it, so they keep it attached to the enhancer with that little ring. Hope that helps.

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Re: Bails that have a movable partial ring inside...

On 9/7/2014 kiwi55 said:

Blondelle, I believe it acts like a safety catch for the bale. If that little loop wasn't in there, when you opened the bale to place it on a chain or remove it, the bale would be removable or loose - you could lose it, so they keep it attached to the enhancer with that little ring. Hope that helps.

Ah, now I see what you mean. Yes, I believe kiwi is right. Some of my enhancers have them and I always assumed/felt that it was to keep the bale safely attached to the enchancer.

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Re: Bails that have a movable partial ring inside...

This is exactly as described. Besides holding the enhancer itself securely to the bale, the lower loop inside acts as a curb for the enhancer clasp. I know from first hand experience after accidentally dropping and having that inner piece break off one of my enhancers. I could never securely close the enhancer when that piece broke off. I later lost the enhancer when it fell off the chain.
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Re: Bails that have a movable partial ring inside...

Thanks everyone for explaining. That makes sense. Is it supposed to be movable though for thicker chains? Mine seems to be, but I don't want to break it.

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Re: Bails that have a movable partial ring inside...

No, Blondelle, it is not supposed movable. It is strictly a safety mechanism. Just forget it is even there. If a thicker chain doesn't fit, as sometimes they won't, then find a thinner chain.

Hope that helps!

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Re: Bails that have a movable partial ring inside...

If used as I suspect people above are saying, its not a true enhancer. I've been thinking and changed my mind. Now I think it's a double enhancer.