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Don't buy fakes

Started 1382474544.57 in Fashion Talk | Last reply 1382901247.473 by kachina624
I'm watching Katie Couric. One of her guests works for police trying to eliminate fake handbags and related items. I learned that buying the fakes is not an innocent activity. These bags are often made by children in third world countries under appalling conditions. Worse is that in some cases purchases can actually support terrorist organizations. The website dontbuyfakes.com has more information. I also learned that if each of us just spent $64 on a made-in-America product this year we'd help create thousands of jobs. It's something to think about.

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chrystaltr­ee1382475258.5912208 PostsRegistered 5/10/2010

So now it's child labor? I thought fake luxury goods were operated by drug cartels. That's what they were saying last year anyway. Children working in appalling conditions making many of the genuine products we use. What's the difference? That's how they help feed their families. I think the big corporations want to stop the counterfeiters because knock off bags and watches etc lessen the value of their expensive products. And they will say anything, true or not, in an attempt to stop people from buying them. So far, they've had no success.

LipstickDi­va1382475413.1337945 PostsRegistered 4/22/2005On the Lake in Ohio
On 10/22/2013 chrystaltree said:

So now it's child labor? I thought fake luxury goods were operated by drug cartels. That's what they were saying last year anyway. Children working in appalling conditions making many of the genuine products we use. What's the difference? That's how they help feed their families. I think the big corporations want to stop the counterfeiters because knock off bags and watches etc lessen the value of their expensive products. And they will say anything, true or not, in an attempt to stop people from buying them. So far, they've had no success.


Honestly I just have to shake my head sometimes.

You can't buy love but you can adopt it. Adopt, don't shop.

Debbie14261382475476.0675342 PostsRegistered 9/12/2012

I believe a lot of the money goes to drug cartels as well as other forms or organized crime including those supporting terrorists. Regardless, I think those buying counterfeit items should stop trying to be "posers and wannabes". Besides, they are not fooling anyone!

LipstickDi­va1382475670.5337945 PostsRegistered 4/22/2005On the Lake in Ohio
On 10/22/2013 Debbie1426 said:

I believe a lot of the money goes to drug cartels as well as other forms or organized crime including those supporting terrorists. Regardless, I think those buying counterfeit items should stop trying to be "posers and wannabes". Besides, they are not fooling anyone!

{#emotions_dlg.thumbup}

You can't buy love but you can adopt it. Adopt, don't shop.

depglass1382476674.723895 PostsRegistered 11/14/2006

How about the fact that this entire activity is ILLEGAL?

ChynnaBlue1382478593.684976 PostsRegistered 5/22/2012
On 10/22/2013 chrystaltree said:

So now it's child labor? I thought fake luxury goods were operated by drug cartels. That's what they were saying last year anyway. Children working in appalling conditions making many of the genuine products we use. What's the difference? That's how they help feed their families. I think the big corporations want to stop the counterfeiters because knock off bags and watches etc lessen the value of their expensive products. And they will say anything, true or not, in an attempt to stop people from buying them. So far, they've had no success.

Wow.

Reepicheep­ers1382480405.293110 PostsRegistered 11/24/2007
On 10/22/2013 Debbie1426 said:

I believe a lot of the money goes to drug cartels as well as other forms or organized crime including those supporting terrorists. Regardless, I think those buying counterfeit items should stop trying to be "posers and wannabes". Besides, they are not fooling anyone!

ITA! I don't understand why anyone would WANT to buy a fake designer accessory! Anyone with a discerning eye knows you are carrying a fake!

And, like depglass said above, it is illegal! Don't support illegal vendors!

rambocat1382480517.6773976 PostsRegistered 1/16/2008

I live in S Fl and in the middle to late 1970's, people were having "clothes parties" in their homes. Racks of clothes with "designer labels" and an assortment of sizes were brought in. As I remember the designers were Oleg Cassini, Yves St Laurant, Chanel, Dior, etc. We had no idea they were knock offs. If we did realize they were phony, no one was worried about it.

They ran like Tupperware parties. The hostess got a choice of clothes for herself depending on the amount of sales. Did anyone else attend this type of party?

what a long strange trip it's been

depglass1382481027.37723895 PostsRegistered 11/14/2006

I used to live a short drive from a major flea market in Shipshewana Indiana. Years ago, maybe the 80's, this market was raided. Every bit of fake merchandise from hundreds of vendors was confiscated. I bet this was a pretty tough financial blow for some of them.

graycatsru­le1382481188.945466 PostsRegistered 7/3/2013

I don't buy fakes. If I can't afford the real thing, I do without.

wookie1382481235.7178350 PostsRegistered 4/30/2006

I don't buy fake bags, and don't know about terrorist connections. I do know small children in third world countries make many of the products we buy here at home, and most don't bat an eyelash anymore.

I remember years ago, a big scandal surrounding small children in factories made headlines when it was discovered that a certain someone was using such practices. Nowadays, it's the norm.

DiAnne1382482169.8375633 PostsRegistered 9/22/2010

Also who do these people think they are fooling. Do people who can afford real Coach and Louis Vuitton really shop at Walmart???

Debbie14261382482663.0835342 PostsRegistered 9/12/2012
On 10/22/2013 wookie said:

I don't buy fake bags, and don't know about terrorist connections. I do know small children in third world countries make many of the products we buy here at home, and most don't bat an eyelash anymore.

I remember years ago, a big scandal surrounding small children in factories made headlines when it was discovered that a certain someone was using such practices. Nowadays, it's the norm.

http://www.freeinews.com/united-states/the-latest-example-of-connecting-counterfeit-goods-to-possible-acts-of-terrorism-come

JustJazzmom1382483601.73727807 PostsRegistered 11/12/2007My garden, of course!!

I'm not holding my breath here waiting for made in America garment and handbag items. That ship has long sailed when American companies decided to go with cheaper labor conditions and the accompanying pay they pay the workers in 3rd world countries.

Items made in America would cost much more because of various things built into the American workers' salary-- disability costs, unemployment insurance, social security and health insurance. Third world countries don't have these advantages.

☼The best place to seek God is in a garden. You can dig for him there. GBShaw☼

Ladybug7241382486367.5074723 PostsRegistered 11/13/2007
On 10/22/2013 DiAnne said:

Also who do these people think they are fooling. Do people who can afford real Coach and Louis Vuitton really shop at Walmart???

Yes and nothing screams "class" like someone with their fake Coach in their dingy pajamas buying formula at Wal-Mart with a baby in only a diaper in the cart almost falling out

faeriemoon1382486430.9536083 PostsRegistered 5/13/2005
On 10/22/2013 chrystaltree said:

So now it's child labor? I thought fake luxury goods were operated by drug cartels. That's what they were saying last year anyway. Children working in appalling conditions making many of the genuine products we use. What's the difference? That's how they help feed their families. I think the big corporations want to stop the counterfeiters because knock off bags and watches etc lessen the value of their expensive products. And they will say anything, true or not, in an attempt to stop people from buying them. So far, they've had no success.

{#emotions_dlg.blink}

Seriously?

My dentist told me I need a crown. I was like, I KNOW, RIGHT!?! ~Pinterest~

faeriemoon1382486473.356083 PostsRegistered 5/13/2005
On 10/22/2013 Debbie1426 said:

I believe a lot of the money goes to drug cartels as well as other forms or organized crime including those supporting terrorists. Regardless, I think those buying counterfeit items should stop trying to be "posers and wannabes". Besides, they are not fooling anyone!

{#emotions_dlg.thumbup1} There you go!

My dentist told me I need a crown. I was like, I KNOW, RIGHT!?! ~Pinterest~

conlt1382487111.3331821 PostsRegistered 5/22/2007
On 10/22/2013 LipstickDiva said:
On 10/22/2013 chrystaltree said:

So now it's child labor? I thought fake luxury goods were operated by drug cartels. That's what they were saying last year anyway. Children working in appalling conditions making many of the genuine products we use. What's the difference? That's how they help feed their families. I think the big corporations want to stop the counterfeiters because knock off bags and watches etc lessen the value of their expensive products. And they will say anything, true or not, in an attempt to stop people from buying them. So far, they've had no success.


Honestly I just have to shake my head sometimes.

Me too! Well said.

wookie1382488471.918350 PostsRegistered 4/30/2006
On 10/22/2013 Debbie1426 said:
On 10/22/2013 wookie said:

I don't buy fake bags, and don't know about terrorist connections. I do know small children in third world countries make many of the products we buy here at home, and most don't bat an eyelash anymore.

I remember years ago, a big scandal surrounding small children in factories made headlines when it was discovered that a certain someone was using such practices. Nowadays, it's the norm.

http://www.freeinews.com/united-states/the-latest-example-of-connecting-counterfeit-goods-to-possible-acts-of-terrorism-come

Thanks for the link!

shamalamad­ingdong41382489190.8271043 PostsRegistered 10/19/2004
On 10/22/2013 conlt said:
On 10/22/2013 LipstickDiva said:
On 10/22/2013 chrystaltree said:

So now it's child labor? I thought fake luxury goods were operated by drug cartels. That's what they were saying last year anyway. Children working in appalling conditions making many of the genuine products we use. What's the difference? That's how they help feed their families. I think the big corporations want to stop the counterfeiters because knock off bags and watches etc lessen the value of their expensive products. And they will say anything, true or not, in an attempt to stop people from buying them. So far, they've had no success.


Honestly I just have to shake my head sometimes.

Me too! Well said.

ITA. That is one of the saddest, most cynical posts I've read in a long time.

Just grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked, the good fortune to remember the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.

KirstiFL1382489208.1437 PostsRegistered 2/25/2010
On 10/22/2013 DiAnne said:

Also who do these people think they are fooling. Do people who can afford real Coach and Louis Vuitton really shop at Walmart???

Umm, yes. We are good stewards of our money and my hubby has treated me to several gorgeous LV bags over the years. Do I shop at Walmart & Target? Yes. Do I shop at Nordstrom & Neiman? Yes.

I believe that you can spot a fake a mile away. Trash is trash. But I also believe in not painting with such a broad brush.

imaclothes­hog1382489622.4821710 PostsRegistered 2/12/2006
On 10/22/2013 DiAnne said:

Also who do these people think they are fooling. Do people who can afford real Coach and Louis Vuitton really shop at Walmart???

{#emotions_dlg.confused1}{#emotions_dlg.huh} Really?

"If you can't make it better, you can laugh at it". ~Erma Bombeck

lovesrecess1382489732.85313651 PostsRegistered 7/14/2008Texas
On 10/22/2013 Ladybug724 said:
On 10/22/2013 DiAnne said:

Also who do these people think they are fooling. Do people who can afford real Coach and Louis Vuitton really shop at Walmart???

Yes and nothing screams "class" like someone with their fake Coach in their dingy pajamas buying formula at Wal-Mart with a baby in only a diaper in the cart almost falling out

wow you must have been in the same Walmart I have been to! I think to say if you buy a fake handbag you are supporting child labor or terrorists is a bit of a stretch; with the majority of our products now being imported from China and everywhere else, what guarantee to we have about anything we purchase as far as the conditions in which they were made?

Chalcedony1382489802.721210 PostsRegistered 1/21/2007Northern Virginia
Whether anyone wants to believe counterfeit goods are linked to terrorism, organized crime, etc., it is indisputable that counterfeiting trademarked goods constitutes intellectual property theft and is a crime. No way am I going to spend my hard-earned money to support someone's criminal activity.

namealread­ytaken1382489822.857734 PostsRegistered 7/13/2009

About 2 weeks ago, a very large quad-counties outdoor flea market in our area was raided for such activity. It really made me not want to return to the flea market again, ever, because the people who run it and they are supposedly civic-minded peeps, are aware of where these people get this and what they are selling. Makes me furious.

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