Attn: Calling Lynn in MI - Vita C/Copper Question

RinaRina · ‎03-13-2010

Hi Lynn, (or anyone reading this thread)

Do you remember which Vita C should not be mixed with CU? Thanks.

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lyn in MI · ‎03-09-2010

According to Isomers, you should not use L-Ascorbic Acid, aka Ascorbic Acid with Copper P Concentrate.

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JeanCA · ‎05-04-2011

Does it deactivate each other?

RinaRina · ‎03-13-2010

On 10/21/2014 lyn in MI said: According to Isomers, you should not use L-Ascorbic Acid, aka Ascorbic Acid with Copper P Concentrate.

So, regarding the ingredients in SKINN's Vita C powder, will the CU cancel out the C powder?

Ingredients

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ascorbic acid, citric acid, aloe barbadensis, boron nitride, zinc PCA, copper PCA, ascorbyl glucoside, silica, mica

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JeanLouiseFinch · ‎10-03-2011

I've read that ""they've"" changed the traditional thinking on this and that L-ascorbic acid and copper peptides CAN be used at the same time now. Nanci fro NCN even chimes in on the thread. http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=27842&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0

lyn in MI · ‎03-09-2010

On 10/21/2014 JeanLouiseFinch said:
I've read that "they've" changed the traditional thinking on this and that L-ascorbic acid and copper peptides CAN be used at the same time now. Nanci fro NCN even chimes in on the thread. http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=27842&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0

Thanks for the link. JLF! I noticed the thread is from '08, and I'm curious if the thinking toward this combination has changed even more over the past six years. Isomers has always advised that the L-Ascorbic Acid for of Vitamin C is not to be used with their Copper P Concentrate, but all other forms of Vit C were OK to use.

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RinaRina · ‎03-13-2010

On 10/21/2014 JeanLouiseFinch said:
I've read that "they've" changed the traditional thinking on this and that L-ascorbic acid and copper peptides CAN be used at the same time now. Nanci fro NCN even chimes in on the thread. http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=27842&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0

Thanks JLF. I'm gonna throw a fly in the ointment and get everyone confused. ${#emotions_dlg.lol}$

I searched for the "latest" (10-23-13) info I could find and found comments from Paula B and newbeauty.com blog. Here's the one from the newbeauty blog. Quote:

"Don’t mix vitamin C with:

1. Alphahydroxy Acids (AHAs): Overloading your skin with too many acid based-ingredients (both vitamin C and AHAs are acid-based) increases your chances of redness, peeling and irritation. “Some AHAs even come with instructions to wash it off after a certain amount of time so that the skin can accommodate and tolerate it,” says Miami dermatologist Loretta Ciraldo, MD.

2. Copper Peptides: Copper peptides help to encourage elastin and collagen formation, making it necessary for wound healing. But when used with vitamin C, the effects of each are cancelled out, rendering the benefits useless.

3. Retinol: Many experts will say that super-strength concentrations of vitamin C and retinol shouldn’t be applied to the skin together, or only with extreme caution, since both are very powerful and can cause the skin to become dry. However, there are some topical products that contain both ingredients, but chances are they contain low concentrations of each, making them safe to use.

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lyn in MI · ‎03-09-2010

I just found the following recommendation posted on NCN's website.

NANCI RECOMMENDS
If you use GHK-Cu Copper Peptide (TriPeptide) Serum, use your Vitamin C+ Serum in the morning and your GHK-Cu Copper Peptide at night. You can also alternate them instead if you want to (use GHK-Cu Copper Peptide once day and your Vitamin C+ Serum the next day).

ETA: NCN's Vitamin C+ Serum contains L Ascorbic Acid...
INGREDIENTS: Water/Distilled Orange Blossom, L-Ascorbic Acid & MAP (Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate), Hyaluronic Acid, Glutathione, Sea Kelp Bioferment, Oat Beta Glucan, Vitamin E (mixture of Tocopherols & Tocotrienols), Ferulic Acid, Polysorbate 80, Optiphen.

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RinaRina · ‎03-13-2010

On 10/21/2014 lyn in MI said:
On 10/21/2014 JeanLouiseFinch said:
I've read that "they've" changed the traditional thinking on this and that L-ascorbic acid and copper peptides CAN be used at the same time now. Nanci fro NCN even chimes in on the thread. http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=27842&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0

Thanks for the link. JLF! I noticed the thread is from '08, and I'm curious if the thinking toward this combination has changed even more over the past six years. Isomers has always advised that the L-Ascorbic Acid for of Vitamin C is not to be used with their Copper P Concentrate, but all other forms of Vit C were OK to use.

Hi Lynn,

I noticed that too -- '08 was a long time ago. (See my post above from newbeauty dated just a year ago.)

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