Tria Age Defy Laser or Derma rolling - which is more effective for collagen production?

I would love to hear some discussion on this question!

Ugh, I just don't know. I've had several different lasers and am currently using a derma roller. The lasers I've had though were in a term or dr.'s office so they probably can't be fairly compared to the Tria. Lasers I've had in an office were def more effective that a derma roller

I think you aren't getting many answers because the ladies here have only been using the Tria for one week and I know there are a few who were using the derma roller, but I'm not sure that it was a long enough time for them to see results.

We won't know the Tria results for at least another 11 weeks or so. I suggest you come back and ask your question in a couple of months and you may get more responses then.

Just didn't want you to think your question was being ignored. We just don't know the answer yet.

I've seen some pretty amazing 'after' photos from those using a dermaroller. I'm thinking of one, BellaCarro, from Dr. S. which was after 6 months. Probably not nearly as dramatic as what a laser assault will do, but for those who don't want to go that route, I think the dermaroller is a great choice. (My best friend, for example -- he's willing to roll, but isn't sure if he wants anything 'done' and would never commit to the Tria regimen).

I think dermarolling is much more gentle, probably with gentler results. But I'm not really sure why -- they both essentially cause our skin to up the collagen production.

I can let you know in about 12 weeks, funlovin. :-) I'd dropped back to once a month for the dermaroller and had done 3 monthly rolls -- 12 weeks. I'll give my final verdict after the 8 week on/4 week off Tria protocol.

On 4/7/2014 funluvin said: Hello beauties, Any expert advice regarding the better tool/ procedure (Tria or Derma Roller) for increasing collagen production on the face? I know the Tria is much more expensive - but I'm only interested in your opinions about EFFECTIVENESS for collagen and elastin production. TIA

Lyn, do you have the first edition or his newest from last year. It's 65.00 at Amazon. I wish he would make a condensed and more affordable version for the home user. From what I gathered, derma rolling is the poor man's laser. If you own a tria, you won't need to do derma rolling. Is this correct?

I'm going to do my third roll tomorrow. I use a .5 and a 1.0 roller. I'm still not sure what my schedule should be. I'm working on skin elasticity. But one site will say to do a deep roll every five weeks, others say use a smaller needle length several times per week. And I am still confused as to what to put on the skin after a roll besides the infadolen.

Maren and Bella, what needle lengths are you using?

On 4/8/2014 beautybee said:

Lyn, do you have the first edition or his newest from last year. It's 65.00 at Amazon. I wish he would make a condensed and more affordable version for the home user. From what I gathered, derma rolling is the poor man's laser. If you own a tria, you won't need to do derma rolling. Is this correct?

I'm going to do my third roll tomorrow. I use a .5 and a 1.0 roller. I'm still not sure what my schedule should be. I'm working on skin elasticity. But one site will say to do a deep roll every five weeks, others say use a smaller needle length several times per week. And I am still confused as to what to put on the skin after a roll besides the infadolen.

Maren and Bella, what needle lengths are you using?

Lyn and Bella are the scholars on this subject but I'll tell you what I was doing based on their research.

I began with a 1.0 and used it 2-3 times a week. Instant gratification was because our skins become a little red and have edema (I think it's called microinflammation). I'd planned to "graduate" to longer needles being of the mind set "more is better".

Lyn and Bella learned from Dr. Setterfield that the OPTIMAL length is 0.05. It's long enough to penetrate the dermis to allow the injury/collagen process, but longer needles actually showed less favorable results

Probably most important info (for me) is that it takes a full 30 days to allow the collagen to fully regenerate. So rolling more frequently actually interrupts the regeneration process -- we're re-injuring before the full "healing" cycle can be completed.

This is my interpretion and I'm sure BC and Lyn will correct my misunderstandings

Dr. Setterfield also recommends using a shorter needle -- 0.02 - 0.03 -- a few times a week to amp up product penetration. It's enough to allow products to more easily get into the epidermis, but not long enough to re-ingure (and thus interrupt the collagen process).

Are you using one?

Thank you for the quick reply, Lyn! That makes perfect sense to me. I will stick with the .5 once a month. That is doable for me.

Hi Maren, I just saw your reply. I am going to do the .5 instead of the 1. I have been doing it once a month because that's what some of the girls at EDS were doing after they did the research. And that was what I gathered was the safest route. I think I may have to do a shorter needle roll for product penetration.