What's it supposed to do for hair? Is it good only as a temporary treatment? Anyone use on a consistent basis with consistent good results?
I use Joico shampoo ( with keratin ) and really like it. I started using it about 2 months ago. My local Ulta sells the entire Joico line.
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ETA: plus many other good salon brands.
Harpa, my knowledge of hair products is very limited but i'm happy to tell you what little I know. Hopefully, some of the hair specialists on this board will share their recommendations. I almost exclusively use Wen by Chaz Dean haircare products (QVC sells them and they have their own forum on the QVC boards) after having tried many other products over the years. -- With regards to my K-Pak treatment, I washed my hair with Wen. Then I applied the K-Pak on my clean wet hair and left it on for about 7 minutes. The instructions say leave in for 5 minutes, but some people on various internet websites have left it in for 7-10 minutes. Then I thoroughly washed the K-Pak out of my hair with my Wen Cleansing Conditioner (which repalces both shampoo and conditioner). While my hair was still wet I put 6 pumps of Wen Cleansing Conditioner in my hair and slept with it in my hair overnight. In the morning I washed the Wen Cleansing Conditioner out. Then while my hair was still wet I put some Wen Re-moist Hydrating Hair Mask in my hair and left it in for the next 24 hours before washing it out. This is probably moisturizing overkill but I was being overcautious because of all the stories I had read about how keratin can cause hair breakage since it can dry out your hair. -- The Wen Cleansing Conditioner contains a lot of aloe vera and glycerin both of which have moisturizing properties. I use the Tea Tree Cleansing Conditioner in which aloe vera is the second largest ingredient followed by glycerin as the third largest ingredient. The Wen Remoist is used to repair damaged hair (key ingredients include aloe vera leaf juice, shea butter, seabuckthorn fruit extract, kukui nut oil, tamanu nut oil, macadamia nut seed oil, etc.). If you're interested in the full ingredient lists, you can find them at the chazdean dot com website. But, if you decide to buy Wen, you should buy Wen at QVC because the prices are better. -- You mentioned that you use Aveeda products. Unfortunately, I'm not that familiar with them. The online posts I read generally said that you should follow your K-Pak treatment with a moisturizing conditioner. -- As for the coconut oil, while I've read that a number of people use coconut oil as part of their hair routine, I don't know if it would qualify a a hair moisturizer such as aloe vera or glycerin. I'm just guessing here, but it's possible that coconut oil (much like jojoba oil which I use) coats the hairshaft. This protects the hairshaft but it also acts as a shield preventing nutrients form penetrating the hair shaft. -- I hope this information helps. Best of luck!!
Yes, Joico Kpak is not a conditioning treatment, it is meant to be followed by one and I have always like Joico Moisture Balm but everyone needs to find what they like. Kpak just gives you a protein for hair that has damage and makes it stronger. Start off with just once a month though because too much protein can make hair straw like. I have used the off brand of Joico Kpak at Sallys for cheaper but for me I didn't find it did as good of a job.
It can be found at Ulta or online. It lasts longer because you don't use it daily like a regular moisturizer.
I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days before you've actually left them. Narddog
bebe, thank you so much for recounting your routine w/ WEN. Yes, I am very familiary w/ WEN products, after having used them for about 2 years! I had to switch because my hair was increasingly frizzy, and I also used the remoist as well as the styling cream, which I still do use. There were other things about WEN that I truly did like. Oh well!
In any event, you drove home the point about the moisturizing afterward! So, thank you!
Irsh, thank you also for your recommendations! I enjoy reading about your hair coloring expertise, as well as other things. I think you are right about the occasional use, since my previous experience w/ keratin things have told me as much. (But I still wondered about keratin overall, and you sure have helped!)
Can I ask you one more question...? If I do use the K-Pak & Moisture Balm following, would you recommend that I do it before or after I color my roots? I color about every 8 or 9 weeks.
Thanks so much!!
Irshgrl31201 and shoekitty, I wanted to thank you both for recommending the K-Pak keratin treatment a few weeks ago. I was intrigued by what you said, shoekitty, about salons not selling K-Pak but using it as their "secret sauce". And Irshgrl, thank you so very much for answering all the questions about keratin that Harpa and I had. I came away from that discussion with a much clearer idea of what keratin was and of how to use it without damaging my hair.
A few days before Christmas I bought the new and improved Joico K-Pak Revitaluxe ($18) and gave it a whirl. If anyone's interested in exactly how I used it, I gave a blow by blow description in post #28 of this thread.
I have very thin, fine, porous hair which evidently is one of the reasons my hair gets frizzy. Once I finished with my extensive post-KPak moisturizing routine and finally washed my hair out, I could see some improvement in my hair. But it really was only incremental.
What I wasn't expecting -- because it sounded completely ridiculous to me -- was for me to see an improvement in my hair texture over the next three days... but that's exactly what happened!!!! Before I decided to try K-Pak, I had spent several hours reading through various beauty forums and a number of people had mentioned this but I just thought they must be imagining it. I think the K-Pak website may have even alluded to it.
Over a three day period (between washings), I watched my hair get thicker, stronger and have more body to it. I have a slight natural wave which tends to go flat on the second day because my hair is so fine. I noticed that some of the wave was still staying in my hair. And my frizzies have probably been reduced by 60%-80%.
The results have been so good that I really want to give myself another treatment soon, but I'm going to follow Irshgrl's advice and hold off for another two weeks.
Once again, Irshgrl and shoekitty thank you so much for taking the time to walk me through this process!!