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Haircalf - A material made from the skin, including hair, of a very young or aborted calf...please don't buy TSV!

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I just feel strongly about this...

Please think twice about ordering!

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sunshine451316841112.51341169 PostsRegistered 1/13/2007east coast and west coast

There were a lot of questions regarding ponyhair, haircalf or in industry terms, hair-on leather. What the heck is it? Is it pony? Is it cow? Well, it is most commonly cow, although it can be done with buffalo or any other animal for that matter (shearling is the sheep version of this) but it is usually not actual pony. Basically, it is the hair side of the animal. It is considered a “pelt”, same as fur. The leather that we are most familiar with is actually the underside, the non-hair side of the skin. Haircalf (the most common term but in fashion pony hair is used to make it sound sexier) is more expensive than the average leather but the cost is in the finish of the hair, since it needs to be treated (chrome tanned is a process that gives the hair the super shiny sheen), most of the time it is cut down short (this is necessary for any use other than a rug, as in, in a cowboy’s house), and it is dyed. If you’ve ever been to a farm, I don’t need to tell you what the natural colors are – solid black, black and white, brown and white or tricolors of black, brown and white. It is dyed white first and any color or pattern can then be put on it, even metallic. As with leather, prices vary widely depending on how many of these treatments it has had. In general, the haircalf version is also more expensive than the leather counterpart because it is harder to work with during manufacturing. The care for haircalf is pretty simple. Don’t get gum or oil on it and you can pretty much clean it nicely with a dry cloth. If you get something on it, use a slightly damp cloth but then dry it with a dry cloth immediately after. Always go with the grain of the hair! It can also be sprayed with the same silicone spray for suede but whatever you do, stay away from Scotch Guard, even their warning says not to use it on anything other than fabric. I guess the question you all want answered is now obvious. No, it is not considered exotic since it is just plain ole’ cow. But if you are looking for an alternative to humdrum leather, haircalf is definitely more unique and bold.

http://www.bagsnob.com/2008/10/what_is_ponyhair_haircalf_calf.html

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annabellet­hecat131684155314038 PostsRegistered 9/23/2006
It's, me..Annabelle, raising my hand, and signing up to say "I will not buy the TSV.

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DMarsh801316841625.8783 PostsRegistered 9/22/2010
On 9/23/2011 annabellethecat said: It's, me..Annabelle, raising my hand, and signing up to say "I will not buy the TSV.

Yay! lol

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che1316841651.07311292 PostsRegistered 2/7/2009seattle, Wa.

Nope not buying..{#emotions_dlg.thumbdown}

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Mama Deb1316841702.2432193 PostsRegistered 9/26/2006

I'm NOT buying it! Hope these post make a statement and TPTB reads these.

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DMarsh801316841897.55383 PostsRegistered 9/22/2010
On 9/23/2011 Mama Deb said:

I'm NOT buying it! Hope these post make a statement and TPTB reads these.

Me too Mama Deb! I'm usually a pretty quiet person, but not when it comes to things like this...

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JoyJ1316841979.8936791 PostsRegistered 4/10/2010California

While I really like the looks of the bag, I can't do it. Just watching the presentation tonight creeped me out and the channel was changed. No furry bags for me. {#emotions_dlg.thumbdown}

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AnnikaC1316842172.751001 PostsRegistered 4/26/2011

The whole idea is just disgusting. I won't be buying.

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DMarsh801316842607.06783 PostsRegistered 9/22/2010

Jacque...I don't care if it's the opposite side of the leather. I wouldn't be buying a calfskin bag without the hair either!

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poochies m­om1316842768.61099 PostsRegistered 6/8/2007
I love the bag.Why didn't he just do printed leather,why hair?It creeps me out too.Not buying here.

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birkin baby1316842907.9234699 PostsRegistered 1/20/2011

I am NOT buying this...not even watching the shows.ICK!!!{#emotions_dlg.thumbdown}

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realsilver­girl1316843634.5631979 PostsRegistered 12/12/2009

Oh this is not good...proves what I thought....QVC really? What are you thinking?

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stevieb1316844076.47728780 PostsRegistered 11/4/2007

I won't buy it. I don't even like it. At all. But even if I did, no way. This crosses a line that so did not need to be crossed. Makowski and QVC had their brains in their backsides on this one...

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dawnetodusk1316844298.87379 PostsRegistered 7/4/2007

I am totally in agreement with you ladies - kind of a turn off as far as purchasing any more BMac bags for me. In fact I'm considering a QVC Buycott at least thru end of 2011. This just is not sitting well with me at all!

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grand03ma1316845203.45106 PostsRegistered 12/27/2007
When I first saw the handbag in the Insider I thought it was beautiful with the fringe,etc. Until I found that it was calfskin. It makes me sick, that I could pet my handbag. It should have been done in a printed leather. I will not be buying the TSV.

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Goldie221316846217.057346 PostsRegistered 2/19/2008New York,NY

This is why I buy his wife's bags ( KVZ bags), no animals were hurt in making

these bags. I am a Animal Lover and cannot wear anything from an animal if I think

it was hurt or tortured just for the purpose of wearing their skins and hair!!!!

I am not a meat eater either, especially anything from a baby animal.....No How No Way...

I guess there is no law in using the hair from animals, one should be passed!!!!!!

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Leilasgran­ny1316848174.37183 PostsRegistered 8/14/2007east side of the Cascade mountains

This bag is made in China where they have almost no regard for animal welfare. It is quite well documented the horrible conditions that animals in the meat and fur industry are raised in. It makes me ill to see the models looking all chic and high fashion clutching these bags at their sides. It's as if they are sending the message that they don't care what an animal endures as long as they can have their high fashions. The only thing we can do is send a message to the designers that we don't want and won't purchase any of these kind of products.

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RedHeadedW­ench1316849574.9879148 PostsRegistered 10/1/2006

This turns my stomach. Shame on you BMak.

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mellowcup1316849603.59330 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004VA

I'm vegetarian so I certainly won't buy the bag. I couldn't watch the show.

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buyornot1316849998.5872670 PostsRegistered 7/7/2008

ugh! That's why I just use cloth bags!

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Islandgirl­70321316864414.44312846 PostsRegistered 6/7/2007Savannah, GA
On 9/24/2011 Leilasgranny said:

This bag is made in China where they have almost no regard for animal welfare. It is quite well documented the horrible conditions that animals in the meat and fur industry are raised in. It makes me ill to see the models looking all chic and high fashion clutching these bags at their sides. It's as if they are sending the message that they don't care what an animal endures as long as they can have their high fashions. The only thing we can do is send a message to the designers that we don't want and won't purchase any of these kind of products.

So true, I agree with you completely!{#emotions_dlg.thumbdown}

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Islandgirl­70321316864415.25312846 PostsRegistered 6/7/2007Savannah, GA
On 9/24/2011 Leilasgranny said:

This bag is made in China where they have almost no regard for animal welfare. It is quite well documented the horrible conditions that animals in the meat and fur industry are raised in. It makes me ill to see the models looking all chic and high fashion clutching these bags at their sides. It's as if they are sending the message that they don't care what an animal endures as long as they can have their high fashions. The only thing we can do is send a message to the designers that we don't want and won't purchase any of these kind of products.

So true, I agree with you completely!{#emotions_dlg.thumbdown}

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Knitgirly1316864669.181714 PostsRegistered 1/23/2007

Nothing to worry about! I wouldn't go near it.

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faeriemoon21316865515.056583 PostsRegistered 1/7/2009

Disgusting. It's made in China so it can just as easily be dog or cat.

Adding: There is another thread about this somewhere with similar responses.

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CalicoGirl1316865633.517698 PostsRegistered 8/24/2011

Where can we write?? He and his product DISGUST ME. {#emotions_dlg.angry} QVC has sunk to a new low.

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