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Beware of the cinnamon that you use

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I don't know if any of you are aware of this or not, but the cinnamon that is sold in our markets, and even our health food stores, is not true cinnamon at all! It is cassia, which is allowed to be called cinnamon because it is in the same family as cinnamon, but it isn't the same at all! It usually comes from either China or Vietnam. It contains high levels of coumarin, which is very toxic! If you use a lot of cinnamon, it can damage your liver and kidneys!

The REAL cinnamon is called Ceylon cinnamon, or true cinnamon, and is from Sri Lanka. It will say Ceylon Cinnamon on the label. It has very low, safe amounts of coumarin in it. I just found out all of this information while researching a good kind of cinnamon to buy, because I found my expensive, organic cinnamon, that I purchased from Whole Foods, didn't have a sweet taste to it at all.

True, Ceylon cinnamon has a much sweeter, better taste to it. I returned my bottle of cinnamon to Whole Foods and went online to find a retailer who sold a good quality Ceylon cinnamon. There are several of them. I chose an organic, natural company and placed an order for some. It has already shipped out.

Another interesting bit of information is that organic Ceylon cinnamon is the best way to go, since regular Ceylon cinnamon comes from the tips of the leaves. The organic kind comes from further inside the leaves of the tree and is stronger and sweeter. I have used so much cinnamon for such a long time and have had strange health issues for a long time. Since I stopped using the cassia cinnamon, I feel much better already!

Both England and Mexico now only sell and use Ceylon cinnamon! I hope that this information can help others in the same way that I was helped. Smile

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist, but you have ceased to live. (Mark Twain)

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ford12241301173453.0573586 PostsRegistered 6/7/2010

Thank you for this post. I use a lot of cinnamon and I will be researching this thoroughly.

Whatsoever things are true, honest, just, pure, lovely, of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

nutmeg31301173564.1035157 PostsRegistered 6/18/2007NJ

Where did you buy your cinnamon online?

luvpups1301173731.56764 PostsRegistered 12/26/2006NM

Well, catch me by surprise! {#emotions_dlg.scared} I love cinnamon, bake & cook w/ it. Wow.......thank you so much for all the information. I'm off to the kitchen & check out my large jar of cinnamon. I learn something new on these boards every day. Thank you for taking your time to inform us.

hopi1301173987.02710996 PostsRegistered 11/26/2006

Also use a lot of cinnamon also, French Toast is kinda of a regular, my family loves when

I make it with Texas Toast. Also add it to pasta sauces and baked goods. UGH why so long

to make people aware.{#emotions_dlg.mad}

kibbi1301174035.832119 PostsRegistered 4/14/2008

I always wondered about that.{#emotions_dlg.confused1} Is the cinnamon flavor in those red candies and Big Red gum the kind from cassia? It has the more spicy/hot flavor.

Jupiter1301174189.945243 PostsRegistered 10/25/2008Florida
On 3/26/2011 nutmeg3 said:

Where did you buy your cinnamon online?

I chose Living Tree Community Foods. They are located in California and only sell natural, organic foods. They actually shipped it out the very same day, within a few hours, and I will be receiving it, by FedEx, on Thursday. I am in Florida. They emailed me both a confirmation email and the FedEx shipping info. They seem like a really great company and I will be using them again. I spent a few hours checking out several companies before deciding on them. Smile

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist, but you have ceased to live. (Mark Twain)

Free2be1301174274.15711070 PostsRegistered 6/7/2006

I tried to post Penzey's Ceylon cinnamon price list but it didn't post in any readable way.

I am very happy with all of the spices ordered from Penzeys. Penzey's dot com will get you there. I love that they always toss in a free sample of a spice I have not yet tried.

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rondell1301174393.5713373 PostsRegistered 12/17/2009USA

Wow, Jupiter! This is alarming. I use a lot of cinnamon, especially for breakfast. I can't thank you enough for the information. I will be shopping for Ceylon in the future.

ford12241301174468.563586 PostsRegistered 6/7/2010

OMG!! I just researched canela molida cinnamon, which is in the cassia family of cinnamon. I will stop using it immediately!

My stomach has been an absolute MESS for over three years and no one has ever been able to figure out why. I have had upper endoscopies, CT scans, even nuclear octreotide scans (high in radiation) and my gastro doc and many of his partners and even a very well respected gastroenterologist specialist who lectures across the country have looked at my various test results and have only been able to tell me the lining of my stomach is extremely irritated. The symptoms have practically ruined my life!

I eat waffles and/or oatmeal with honey and cinnamon every single morning, so I have been getting far more cinnamon that what is in ordinary foods. I started eating it when I read that honey and cinnamon are good for rheumatoid arthritis, which I have.

Let me say to you, Jupiter, I am going off the cinnamon immediately. I will stay off it for several weeks and also make an appt with my gastro doc (who I may have never mentioned I was ingesting so much cinnamonl, so how would he know).

If I get better, then I'm going to ask you for personal information so that I can thank you properly. I AM SERIOUS! You have no idea what this will mean to me if my chronic and painful stomach issues subside. You will have changed my life.

Carolean

Whatsoever things are true, honest, just, pure, lovely, of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

barb401301174535.3473742 PostsRegistered 11/7/2004

Wow! Had no idea! Thanks for the info.

Just bought a lg. jar @ Costco...I 'think' it is from VietNam...

glad you are feeling better...if you don't mind sharing some of your health issues...that could be helpful...if not I totally understand!

chickenbutt1301174601.0624670 PostsRegistered 1/16/2006chickentown

Yeah I know. I've tried to tell people that here, but was disregarded entirely. I only buy Ceylon Cinnamon (Penzey's is a good source).

I just keep a running list of stuff I'm going to need soon and make an order with them before I run out of something from the list. That way I'm not just ordering one thing and paying shipping for that. Penzey's is awesome and their people are the best.

Thanks for bringing this up! It's important information, especially for some of us with certain conditions and tendencies, so I hope people pay attention.

Bippity boppity BOOYAH!

madcity4111301174646.2934715 PostsRegistered 8/11/2007

Thanks so much for the information Jupiter. I don't use much cinnamon, but certainly don't want to use anything from China that is made with using toxins. I wonder what else we are unknowingly consuming from that country. {#emotions_dlg.scared}

Jupiter1301174778.8775243 PostsRegistered 10/25/2008Florida
On 3/26/2011 luvpups said:

Well, catch me by surprise! {#emotions_dlg.scared} I love cinnamon, bake & cook w/ it. Wow.......thank you so much for all the information. I'm off to the kitchen & check out my large jar of cinnamon. I learn something new on these boards every day. Thank you for taking your time to inform us.

You are very welcome. I was so horrified when I found this out! I felt so deceived and was really angry about it. I was on Amazon.com and was checking out the cinnamon they sold, when I read a review before purchasing it. The man gave out this information in his review, and warned about it. I immediately googled everything that I could to make sure that it was really true, and it was!

If the bottle just says cinnamon on it, then it is cassia!!

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist, but you have ceased to live. (Mark Twain)

Idacat1301174962.5474707 PostsRegistered 7/26/2005Idaho !!!!

Have you ever considered seeing a psychiatrist?

And, no I am not kidding.

It has actually got to be exhausting to live with the ongoing degree of overt paranoia you continually exhibit. You need help.

Things the OP left out:

Even in cassia cinnamon the amount of coumarin varies enormously.It's possible for it to contain,,,,,,,,none and, it is possible for Ceylon cinnamon to contain some, just as it is possible for other plants used as or in food to contain some coumarin. This variation can occur at different times in the bark of a single tree.

Even if consuming very large amounts of cassia cinnamon containing significant amounts of coumarin, only a very small number of susceptable people will be affected at all, and the effects to the liver are not permanent, but reverse when cassia cinnamon cousumption is discontinued.

As for the taste. From the Science Digest: " it is almost impossible for consumers to distinguish between Ceylon and cassia in cinnamon powder"

"Cassia cinnamon" is a variety of cinnamon, it isn't something entirely different.

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SharonKay1301174974.2273795 PostsRegistered 3/16/2008Ohio

Thank you for this post. I have never heard anything about this. I am currently researching it further but I wanted to say thanks for bringing it to my (and others) attention. I use a ton of cinnamon every day so I want to get some additional information on the subject.

The cinnamon I am using is Spice Classics brand and it says it is Canela Molida, which is not the same (from what I can tell at this stage) as cassia.

Edited because it seems the two are related. I still have more research to do.

Thanks again.

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hopi1301174995.22710996 PostsRegistered 11/26/2006
On 3/26/2011 chickenbutt said:

Yeah I know. I've tried to tell people that here, but was disregarded entirely. I only buy Ceylon Cinnamon (Penzey's is a good source).

I just keep a running list of stuff I'm going to need soon and make an order with them before I run out of something from the list. That way I'm not just ordering one thing and paying shipping for that. Penzey's is awesome and their people are the best.

Thanks for bringing this up! It's important information, especially for some of us with certain conditions and tendencies, so I hope people pay attention.

hey,hey,hey

I'm people chickenbutt{#emotions_dlg.laugh}

first I'm hearing of it

my sister loves Penzey's spice

going to give them a try

Jupiter1301175299.675243 PostsRegistered 10/25/2008Florida
On 3/26/2011 Free2be said:

I tried to post Penzey's Ceylon cinnamon price list but it didn't post in any readable way.

I am very happy with all of the spices ordered from Penzeys. Penzey's dot com will get you there. I love that they always toss in a free sample of a spice I have not yet tried.

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I was thinking about buying from Penzey's, but, as far as I could tell, they don't have the organic kind, which I wanted.

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist, but you have ceased to live. (Mark Twain)

ford12241301175401.2073586 PostsRegistered 6/7/2010
On 3/26/2011 SharonKay said:

Thank you for this post. I have never heard anything about this. I am currently researching it further but I wanted to say thanks for bringing it to my (and others) attention. I use a ton of cinnamon every day so I want to get some additional information on the subject.

The cinnamon I am using is Spice Classics brand and it says it is Canela Molida, which is not the same (from what I can tell at this stage) as cassia.

Yes it is. Go online, Google it and read the Web MD information. Canela molida is indeed a subform of cassia. I use Spice Classics also, so we are using the same brand and it is toxic. If you read my post you will see that I have had serious stomach issues for years. I am taking this information VERY seriously.

Whatsoever things are true, honest, just, pure, lovely, of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

ford12241301175796.8433586 PostsRegistered 6/7/2010
On 3/26/2011 Idacat said:

Have you ever considered seeing a psychiatrist?

And, no I am not kidding.

It has actually got to be exhausting to live with the ongoing degree of overt paranoia you continually exhibit. You need help.

Things the OP left out:

Even in cassia cinnamon the amount of coumarin varies enormously.It's possible for it to contain,,,,,,,,none and, it is possible for Ceylon cinnamon to contain some, just as it is possible for other plants used as or in food to contain some coumarin. This variation can occur at different times in the bark of a single tree.

Even if consuming very large amounts of cassia cinnamon containing significant amounts of coumarin, only a very small number of susceptable people will be affected at all, and the effects to the liver are not permanent, but reverse when cassia cinnamon cousumption is discontinued.

As for the taste. From the Science Digest: " it is almost impossible for consumers to distinguish between Ceylon and cassia in cinnamon powder"

"Cassia cinnamon" is a variety of cinnamon, it isn't something entirely different.

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I did not take the OP's word for it, although I very much appreciate that she posted this information. I researched it, and Web MD listed all of the subcategories of cassia, of which Canela Molida is one, and said it was TOXIC and should not be eaten. I have probably been eating a tsp or more of it every single day for three years or more. And I have severe problems with my stomach which have not been diagnosable.

I think your post to Jupiter is totally out of order. What agenda could you possibly think she has? I personally found out that she is right. I am obviously one the "small number of susceptible people that could be affected" that you mention.

Don't bash just to bash. Please.

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Whatsoever things are true, honest, just, pure, lovely, of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

Jupiter1301175905.075243 PostsRegistered 10/25/2008Florida
On 3/26/2011 rondell said:

Wow, Jupiter! This is alarming. I use a lot of cinnamon, especially for breakfast. I can't thank you enough for the information. I will be shopping for Ceylon in the future.

I used so much cinnamon, also! I put loads of it on my morning pancakes, put it on rice pudding, and loads of it on sweet potatoes!

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist, but you have ceased to live. (Mark Twain)

Jupiter1301176317.75243 PostsRegistered 10/25/2008Florida
On 3/26/2011 ford1224 said:

OMG!! I just researched canela molida cinnamon, which is in the cassia family of cinnamon. I will stop using it immediately!

My stomach has been an absolute MESS for over three years and no one has ever been able to figure out why. I have had upper endoscopies, CT scans, even nuclear octreotide scans (high in radiation) and my gastro doc and many of his partners and even a very well respected gastroenterologist specialist who lectures across the country have looked at my various test results and have only been able to tell me the lining of my stomach is extremely irritated. The symptoms have practically ruined my life!

I eat waffles and/or oatmeal with honey and cinnamon every single morning, so I have been getting far more cinnamon that what is in ordinary foods. I started eating it when I read that honey and cinnamon are good for rheumatoid arthritis, which I have.

Let me say to you, Jupiter, I am going off the cinnamon immediately. I will stay off it for several weeks and also make an appt with my gastro doc (who I may have never mentioned I was ingesting so much cinnamonl, so how would he know).

If I get better, then I'm going to ask you for personal information so that I can thank you properly. I AM SERIOUS! You have no idea what this will mean to me if my chronic and painful stomach issues subside. You will have changed my life.

Carolean

I hope that your stomach starts to feel much better within a few days, if not weeks. I had stomach problems, also. I often felt sick in my stomach and nausea. I tried so many things, like fish oils, probiotics, etc. I still had the same symptoms. I am starting to feel much better now. That darn Dr. Oz recommended that we use more cinnamon in our diets, so I used more than ever! {#emotions_dlg.mad}

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist, but you have ceased to live. (Mark Twain)

bopper1301176327.3514131 PostsRegistered 8/5/2007

Does this apply to cinnamon supplements too?

bopper1301176916.61714131 PostsRegistered 8/5/2007

At Penzey's how do you know which one to get. There is Vietnamese cinnamon, Korintje cinnamon, Ceylon cinnamon.

redtabby1301177535.763720 PostsRegistered 8/18/2005
On 3/26/2011 ford1224 said:

I did not take the OP's word for it, although I very much appreciate that she posted this information. I researched it, and Web MD listed all of the subcategories of cassia, of which Canela Molida is one, and said it was TOXIC and should not be eaten. I have probably been eating a tsp or more of it every single day for three years or more. And I have severe problems with my stomach which have not been diagnosable.

Where did you see that on WebMD? All I found was this quote:

"Very high quantities of cassia cinnamon may be toxic, particularly in people with liver problems."

And:

"How much cinnamon should you take?

Because cinnamon is an unproven treatment, there is no established dose. Some recommend 1/2 to 1 teaspoon (2-4 grams) of powder a day. Some studies have used between 1 gram and 6 grams of cinnamon. Very high doses may be toxic."

Jupiter1301177569.5535243 PostsRegistered 10/25/2008Florida

This is from Wikipedia ---

Cassia has a much stronger, somewhat harsher flavor than Ceylon cinnamon. Due to the presence of a moderately toxic component called coumarin, European health agencies have recently warned against consuming large amounts of cassia. Coumarin is known to cause liver and kidney damage in high concentrations. Ceylon cinnamon has negligible amounts of coumarin.

Idacat, you are welcome to consume large amounts of cassia to your heart's content!

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist, but you have ceased to live. (Mark Twain)

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