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925 marking on a piece of "gold"

Started 1324353898.653 in Jewelry Talk | Last reply 1324672589.24 by madcity411

There is a thread up right now titled Shocked. That lady has an 18K piece that is not testing 18K at her jewelers. That got me looking at the gold ring I chose to wear today, a 14K Greek Key ring I got on the sponge docks in Tarpon Springs, Florida, about 10-15 years ago. This was a gold shop that gets its jewelry directly from Greece and its still up on the internet, Goldfingers. It is your standard Greek Key design with a sizing bar on the back. So, I get out my loupe, look at the back, and its stamped 925. My experience tells me this appears to be 14K, not plated silver. I paid $100.00 for the ring, and the current prices seem very cheap, $140.00 for a similar ring. 22K gold is 91.3 % gold, so that's not my answer. Can anyone help?

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Barbara in­ Virginia1324354184.4677581 PostsRegistered 5/22/2010

Any gold plated sliver pieces I have are marked .925.

catlvr1324356293.895721 PostsRegistered 5/5/2005

If it says 925 it is silver. Don't know what it is coated with.

catlvr

ennui1324357822.67719957 PostsRegistered 4/17/2007
On 12/19/2011 depglass said:

My experience tells me this appears to be 14K, not plated silver.

If you could tell just by looking, that would be an amazing talent.

"Enjoy the little things, for one day you may look back and realize they were the big things." ~ Robert Brault

jackiegina­rea1324406536.527256 PostsRegistered 1/15/2011

925 is silver. Even if it is plated with 24k gold, it will still say 925. At least, legally it has to.

NovaStar1324409265.081323 PostsRegistered 11/9/2010

Sounds like silver to me, too.

Kittyface1324409355.82649 PostsRegistered 7/18/2006WNY

You have a lovely piece of silver.

depglass1324417786.9822677 PostsRegistered 11/14/2006

I have never examined this ring in all these years. They said it was 14K and it has taken abuse very well. I'm having it tested next time I go to my jewelry store for a repair. It boggles my mind that this well respected store in a huge tourist area could get away with this. Shame on me.

Shelbelle1324418191.04332805 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004

Sounds like Technibond or something similar.

CouponQueen1324419858.5373765 PostsRegistered 10/21/2010

I agree it is not gold. All my gold is clearly marked 10K, 14k, 18K..and silver has 925 on it.

Sammycat11324421873.5439244 PostsRegistered 9/30/2005
On 12/20/2011 depglass said:

I have never examined this ring in all these years. They said it was 14K and it has taken abuse very well. I'm having it tested next time I go to my jewelry store for a repair. It boggles my mind that this well respected store in a huge tourist area could get away with this. Shame on me.

Not shame on you -- shame on them for breaking the law and selling you something that wasn't 14K!

wendydarli­ng1324424473.083637 PostsRegistered 1/15/2009

I had something similar happen to me but at a greatly reduced price. I was looking at earrings at TJMaxx where I've purchased a lot of jewelry over the years. It was a gold pair of earrings w/ a small pearl. The price was $20. I asked if it was gold plated & the sales lady said that they did not carry gold-plated jewelry, that it was gold. I countered & said it could not be gold for that price. She continued the argument, I could not see the hallmark let alone read it. I purchased the earrings because i really liked them but a month later at another TJMaxx, i saw the same exact pair of earrings. I had the sales clerk pull them & she looked at them thru a loupe & could make out the 925 marking so i was right. They were gold clad silver. And for $20, that's fine, they are still lovely. But it irritated me that the first sales clerk kept trying to convince me that they were 14k gold. The sales clerks do not always know what they are talking about.

CalmInTheH­eart1324425797.076738 PostsRegistered 7/14/2007

If it's stamped 925, it's not 10k, 14k, 18k. It would have to be plated.

Peace

depglass1324480609.84322677 PostsRegistered 11/14/2006

I'm still in complete denial over this ring. So I went to the website for Goldfingers in Tarpon Springs Florida and under rings they are ALL listed

14K Solid Greek Key Ring

Is this a legal technicality in the gold selling law, in other words they are off the hook because the word solid isn't before 14K?

I love the ring and I'll never sell it. It just bugs me I got duped. I own over 100 rings and have sold jewelry on Ebay in the past, so I know all about checking marks with a loupe. I just never had looked at this ring.

Sammycat11324490644.8479244 PostsRegistered 9/30/2005
On 12/21/2011 depglass said:

I'm still in complete denial over this ring. So I went to the website for Goldfingers in Tarpon Springs Florida and under rings they are ALL listed

14K Solid Greek Key Ring

Is this a legal technicality in the gold selling law, in other words they are off the hook because the word solid isn't before 14K?

I love the ring and I'll never sell it. It just bugs me I got duped. I own over 100 rings and have sold jewelry on Ebay in the past, so I know all about checking marks with a loupe. I just never had looked at this ring.

Nope, not a legal technicality. Even vermeil, which is gold over silver, must be a certain number of microns thick on top of the vermeil to be even called vermeil. The FTC mandates all of these definitions and hallmarks.

It could have been an inadvertent mistake -- maybe they purchase estate pieces or buy gold for resale and an item got mixed into their inventory. Or maybe they make a vermeil line in the same styles that they also sell, and the rings look identical but got switched somehow. I read an article in one of the jewelry trades once about the latter happening.

Just for the heck of it, why not email or call them?

madcity4111324492096.14417 PostsRegistered 8/11/2007

It's SILVER plated with GOLD! Still most likely a lovely piece of jewelry. {#emotions_dlg.blink}

madzonie1324497520.8534555 PostsRegistered 8/8/2007

Last year I bought this pair of "gold" earrings from Q - J142033:

http://www.qvc.com/qic/qvcapp.aspx/view.2/app.detail/params.item.J142033.desc.200-Lire-Coin-Earrings-14K-Gold

Now, believe me, I thought for sure they are NOT 14k for that price. But I like them and they've held up. But I can't believe they are really GOLD for $30! Plus the description says the coins are Italian, but the earrings were made in Dominican Republic. Does that mean assembled, plated, what?

Anyway, I don't see any markings anywhere on the earrings or wires that say 14K.

lavenderju­nkie1324499692.1612319 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004

neeliec: The shepards hook is 14K, but the coin is not. The description isn't very explicit. But that is the only logical explanation.

HopeReigns1324499898.5773517 PostsRegistered 5/4/2007
On 12/21/2011 madcity411 said:

It's SILVER plated with GOLD! Still most likely a lovely piece of jewelry. {#emotions_dlg.blink}


So right!!! I have a friend who keeps telling everyone that her jewelry is platinum and I tell her it is platinum over silver....just look at the hallmarkings on the inside. She still thinks she has platinum even if she pays $49 for it. Duh

Hope, >^.^<

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madzonie1324504597.7634555 PostsRegistered 8/8/2007
On 12/21/2011 lavenderjunkie said:

neeliec: The shepards hook is 14K, but the coin is not. The description isn't very explicit. But that is the only logical explanation.

lavender - I do feel this is kind of false advertising! Nowhere in the description does it say JUST the wires are 14K or that the coins are NOT 14K.

I knew the price was too cheap for real gold coins and I do like the earrings and think they are very pretty. I just think the folks who write the descriptions should be much more specific and clear about what it is that IS 14K.

jetts_mom1324511395.1872493 PostsRegistered 4/14/2010

Just an aside, but gold may also be stamped with a decimal mark rather than a karat designation.

.416 is 10K, .585 is 14K and .750 is 18K.

You were born an original - don't die a copy.

Flowershop­Girl1324511899.852240 PostsRegistered 3/30/2011CA

I will agree with others here, it is most likely gold-clad silver with that marking. Its always good to loupe your jewelry when purchasing to make sure they are selling true gold.

madcity4111324526269.2874417 PostsRegistered 8/11/2007
On 12/21/2011 neeliec said:
On 12/21/2011 lavenderjunkie said:

neeliec: The shepards hook is 14K, but the coin is not. The description isn't very explicit. But that is the only logical explanation.

lavender - I do feel this is kind of false advertising! Nowhere in the description does it say JUST the wires are 14K or that the coins are NOT 14K.

I knew the price was too cheap for real gold coins and I do like the earrings and think they are very pretty. I just think the folks who write the descriptions should be much more specific and clear about what it is that IS 14K.

Agree, the deceptive marketing that they are allowed to get away with it terrible. I guess if a small part of something IS gold, they can sell it calling it GOLD, as if it was a higher karat material. You just have to be a very savvy shopper today, otherwise you get ripped off.

champagnep­oodle1324527287.424029 PostsRegistered 9/26/2011

925 equals silver

sometimesQ­VCjunkie1324619604.652728 PostsRegistered 5/12/2008

You get what you pay for couldn't be a BETTER phrase for this topic.

If you think you're getting a real 100% solid gold piece for $30, you're fooling yourself. That's like paying $25 for a diamond ring and being 'surprised' when you find out its fake. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you have something marked 925 it's Silver, NOT gold. If you think you have something else, you're just in denial - sorry to be so blunt! REAL GOLD is marked 10K, 14K, 22K or 24K. Basic common sense.

madcity4111324672589.244417 PostsRegistered 8/11/2007
On 12/22/2011 sometimesQVCjunkie said:

You get what you pay for couldn't be a BETTER phrase for this topic.

If you think you're getting a real 100% solid gold piece for $30, you're fooling yourself. That's like paying $25 for a diamond ring and being 'surprised' when you find out its fake. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you have something marked 925 it's Silver, NOT gold. If you think you have something else, you're just in denial - sorry to be so blunt! REAL GOLD is marked 10K, 14K, 22K or 24K. Basic common sense.

Common sense, is NOT so common apparently. Sad. Some of us get it.

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