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OK. Don't laugh - I really am interested in your thoughts on what happens with some bags here - I have been a bagaholic for years now, and used to be rather skeptical at the posters who would complain that the bag they received had a terrible toxic odor, enough to even ruin the smell of your home, etc. It seemed so random that shoppers would run into this, and then it happened to me. I got this awesome bag from a designer here, in Olive Green, and I had to store it outdoors til I could return it. Later, a dozen bags later, I had the same thing happen to me again, also with a green-shaded bag. That got me off green, but it has happened again with a third designer, but this bag was in blue. Once you have received a bag with this "odor", you'll never forget it. If you haven't, you can't imagine how lucky you are and how unbelievably toxic this smell is. But... what do you think its from? Also, the first bag I could tell was an older bag, based on dates of reviews, yet other bags have been brand-spankin' new. QVC always is wonderful and takes the bags back, with apologies, but what the heck is it? Do you think its a certain storage area? Warehouse? I am totally stumped, since its not just one designer, but really a lot of them, and its really random, maybe 1 bag in 1000. But the smell is always the same. Since all different designers, I am thinking storage - but do you think its on the designers' end? I don't work in retail or fashion at all, but in medical field, and its just bugging me to figure out the source, and wish I could help the Q figure it out and eliminate it forever! Just now felt so bad to read someone's review on a great bag, but she got hit with "the odor"... same color as my bag, which is perfect, and I just hate to have this problem lurking around.... Any thoughts?

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2000surviv­or1282277132.9131541 PostsRegistered 1/20/2008Arkansas
I read on other threads if made overseas perhaps a pesticide? If that is right perhaps some bags don't get aired out as throughly as others? Just a guess on my part.

Anne0011282277818.361387 PostsRegistered 2/1/2008NE

If it is made overseas, I think they gas those containers with pesticide as 2000 said. Those nearer the outside get more, too much, so that all the contents will get enough.

I have also smelled that on clothes in a store. Not pleasant. No sale.

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newtome1282278342.11414 PostsRegistered 10/5/2007

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Cristinota1282284135.193457 PostsRegistered 12/26/2006Castro Valley, CA

I, too, had a smelly purse---not once, but twice! I was so excited to pick up a blue Stone Mountain bag, but when it arrived, it reeked of fish. Even the box smelled, making me wonder if the UPS man had lost his sense of smell. I complained to CS, who sent me another bag, but that one stunk too! I sent both back, swearing off Stone Mountain products. Airing out a toxic purse is not the solution. I was wondering if the purses were made in China of inferior materials. Two of the same bag cannot be just a coincidence. Or maybe Stone Mountain and I were not meant to be!

LaurieNJ1282292296.91336 PostsRegistered 1/18/2007On The Beach

Thanks so much, everyone!! I personally am going to go with the pesticide gas being sprayed in large quantities, etc. That would certainly make sense, as some bags are heavily loaded with the toxic smell, others not so much, and others not at all. Very interesting, and I'm sure not healthy for us, to say the least. I had 1 Stone Mountain bag from QVC, it was a more expensive one, near $150, but no smell at all. (expensive for Stone Mountain)... I had the toxic smell with a Tig bag, a B-Mak and I can't remember the third - but definitely different designer - perhaps KVZ. Not sure, but its a smell you will never forget - I've also encountered the "fish smell", too, and this one is even worse than that! Oh well. Just another thing we're probably being exposed to without our knowledge, probably even up the chain may not be aware. Oh well. Thanks, and at least I know I'm in good company! Good Night! Happy purse hunting!

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TY1282298111.7072720 PostsRegistered 3/22/2007

I bought a silver leather Soprano hobo handbag from The Shopping Channel in Canada a couple of years ago and the bag reeked of mothballs. I could not get the smell out. I ended up buying aquarium activated charcoal and wrapping the charcoal up in paper towels and then putting them in the bag including all the pockets, zipping up the bag and leaving the charcoal in there for about 6 months. Frankly, I should have sent the bag back.

I notice when I go into bricks and mortat stores that have a lot of cheap synthetic handbags and shoes though that those also give off an outgassing odor that stinks.

namealread­ytaken1282307143.945173 PostsRegistered 7/13/2009

Some of the reason could be dye if it is a dark color of leather. I once worked near a dye house and we could smell that place for miles away when the weather was right. On a good day, if you were (as my company was), a couple blocks away you could always smell it.

~bunny~1282309941.719850 PostsRegistered 5/17/2010

I have sent back 3 bags due to the smell. I read that it could be the dye. I am not sure if it is just the dark colors because one of mine was white and I sprinkled baking soda all over it and let it sit in a tub for 3 days. The smell did not come out so I vacuumed it and it went back.

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rolen1282310559.46233 PostsRegistered 10/24/2004
On 8/20/2010 Cristinota said:

I, too, had a smelly purse---not once, but twice! I was so excited to pick up a blue Stone Mountain bag, but when it arrived, it reeked of fish.

I ordered an area rug as a gift. It was wrapped in plastic, but when I took it out to make sure it was OK (thank goodness I opened it up before giving it as a gift!) it also reeked of fish. I don't think it was actually a dead fish that caused the smell, but it sure smelled like rotten fish. I felt I was lucky as after several days out in the sun, covered with Febreeze, the smell finally went away.

These horrible smells unfortunately are not just limited to handbags. Any kind of fabric, carpet or upholstery type product can have this awful smell. I like the explanation about the chemical spraying of things brought in from overseas. It also makes sense that some things on the outside of the containers get more spray than the things more to the middle. That also explains why sometimes things smell and sometimes they do not.

bostonian1282312293.2254 PostsRegistered 6/26/2009

I call it...the made in China scent! If you notice, products made in China have a very distinct odor.

Qgirl1282312740.7234167 PostsRegistered 4/20/2005

I always smell it with plastic handbags. I thought it might be the chemical in the plastic. I had no idea that the leather ones smell, too. I buy mine at Nordstrom and have never noticed a smell, so maybe Nordstrom airs them out before selling them.

GreenEyedG­irl1282312986.111689 PostsRegistered 11/19/2007Beautiful Maryland

Someone gave me a very cheap purse once and it reeked. My husband said it was mothballs.

I read that D&B comes from China.

What about Stone Mountain? Anyone know?

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cerinthe1282340991.2672535 PostsRegistered 7/12/2005

I think, and this is a complete guess, is that since the cost of 'leather' has gone up, and the price of handbags has stayed the same or gone down, that companies buy 'cheap leather' and then use relatively new chemical and physical processes to 'soften' the leather to get it to feel more expensive, have a softer hand, etc. Or use these 'newer chemicals' to get the dye to take in a bright unusual shade or color or to take an 'imprint' or glaze.

And I think part of the process includes (this is my guess,) a heavily load of toxins like mercury and lead. Or maybe they are injecting liquid plastic or silicones into the leather? Who knows. These processes (so they can undercut competitors,) are likely very secretative and the bag designers may not be fully aware of them, since they may just buy the 'final product' which the production company 'raves' is the best quality leather, etc.

Here is an article addressing Hong Kong businesses about the Prop 65 lawsuit re: lead contamination in handbags (notice the most contamination was found in the leather,):

http://www.hktdc.com/info/mi/a/baus/en/1X06OOND/1/Business-Alert-US/Consumer-Watchdog-Group-Reaches-Deal-With-Four-Companies-Over-Lead-In-Handbags-Files-Legal-Action-On-Cadmium-In-Jewellery.htm

And here is an article from the group which sued over the lead in handbags, talking about the landmark agreement that was reached:

http://www.ceh.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=443&Itemid=166

CEH (Center for Environmental Health) went after the retailers, not the manufacturers of these handbags and now requires the lead level that is tested for be below a certain parts per million level. Its very interesting read.

I guess if we see a lot of 'unusually inexpensive leather' handbags being sold by the end of the year, we'll know these bags are getting dumped before the new laws are in place...?

Just my thoughts.

cerinthe1282345977.762535 PostsRegistered 7/12/2005

I just read through pages of USDA-APHIS Import requirements for leather/handbags/luggage, and although a potential quarantine is mentioned, and certain documents are required (most specifically, the origin of the animal that was processed and in some cases, veterinary documentation that the animal had a clean bill of health,- not so much where the bag was created...) and I could find no evidence of gassing or pesticide spraying of the leather goods.

Now the TEXTILE importation regulartions are very complex and detailed and I did read about possible fumigation of the product in SOME cases, because there was concern of certain invasive species hitching a ride on natural fibers like silk, wool (especially) and cotton. I didn't read too much into this because my head was exploding at this this point.

But I found no evidence of leather fumigation. They were much more concerned about the origins of the animal that the product was made from. Which made me think how complex our world is, and do we know where some of these leathers come from? I would think Argentina and the US would export a lot of hides to be processed in countries with flimsy regulations for toxin exposures, etc., (and is therefore cheaper) but I also hear 'italian leather'... does that mean processed or is that the source of the animal used? Many times we aren't even told what leather our product is made from! Goat is the most eaten animal in the world, and many handbags are made of goat leather, but rarely identified (Kate Spade points out goat leather in some of her trims and bags I noticed.) HSN even has that 'vague disclaimer' that 'leather can refer to a variety of skins, including, but not limited to, cowhide, pigskin and lambskin,' at the bottom of many bag descriptions.

More questions, fewer answers. :)

cerinthe1282346480.432535 PostsRegistered 7/12/2005

New idea: Also, the fumigation regulations are clear that anything to be fumigated may not be wrapped or contained in plastic.

Maybe (sometimes) the plastic smell is from (cheaply made, high petroleum content,) plastic bags that the leather bags are contained in.

However, I think when the 'leather' smells inherently bad, its from whatever they did to process that leather and make it 'soft and pliable'.

Ok, still reading and according to APHIS-USDA, leather is not to be fumigated with Methyl Bromide and its against regulation to do so. Still checking other common fumigants.

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showdog1282353258.0033121 PostsRegistered 10/18/2007

Whatever it is, it's nasty. I just returned the Dooney TSV for this very reason. It was literally sickening. There was no airing it out - it was in the leather to stay.

Such a shame since it was a beautiful bag. I'm sure QVC will sell it to someone else (unfortunately).

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cerinthe1282353738.192535 PostsRegistered 7/12/2005

Oh no, my heart is going to be broken if the Dooney TSV smells like the recent B Makowsky TSV (which I had to send back since it reeked horribly of a metallic smell to me after airing out for weeks.)

showdog1282354401.6933121 PostsRegistered 10/18/2007
On 8/20/2010 cerinthe said:

Oh no, my heart is going to be broken if the Dooney TSV smells like the recent B Makowsky TSV (which I had to send back since it reeked horribly of a metallic smell to me after airing out for weeks.)

I hope yours doesn't. But, yes, it was that same smell. I know because I also ordered that B. Makowsky TSV and returned it for the same reason. Actually, that one was worse.

Hope you have better luck with your Dooney than I did.......and, yes, it broke my heart :(

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cerinthe1282355648.8272535 PostsRegistered 7/12/2005

showdog- I'm so sorry you had that experience! That is a nasty smell. Frustrating. Sigh.

mother-of-­two1282356784.443 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004

It doesn't matter if the bag is plastic or leather, it can have that obnoxious metallic smell. Last week I ordered a couple of Brahmin bags - the smell was so strong, I called the company to ask about it. They claimed that it would dissipate in a short time. After a week sitting in my office, with the window open, I decided to return both bags. While getting them ready for the box, I handled them both. Within a minute or two, I had a metallic taste on the top of my tongue which has not gone away. Both bags were mad ein China.

MissyW11282366923.84720597 PostsRegistered 3/4/2007USA

KSV bags have it. I think it's some sort of toxic spray.

At the Dollar Tree store, items have the same smell.

lovemygigi1282379408.0973887 PostsRegistered 3/12/2010

I have returned four bags because of this smell issue. The MAXX studio bag and B Mak from the Q and a Michael Rome and Carlos Falchi from HSN. I think the Maxx was the worst in terms of "fishiness". I put it in my closet and my husband asked me if I smelled something bad that night when we were in bed LOL!

I have NEVER experienced these brands smelling when I handling them in stores (Mac's Nordstrom and Bloomingdale's). It is gross!

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kitkom1282390952.935516 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004

I got a handbag years ago and when I opened the pkg. it just reeked from diesel fuel! We knew that smell because we drive diesel vehicles. I promptly sent it back! Why China would douse items in diesel fuel is beyond me. American made for me all the way with everything now.

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lavenderju­nkie1282392238.7578768 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004

I don't know if it's the processing/dyes used in the leather, the plastic bags, or the fumigation....or a combination of all three. I've had 3 handbags that I noticed the problem on....all 3 were shipped to me....2 directly from Dooney, and both calf leather, the third was another good leather brand. That means that all 3 handbags were sitting wrapped up in a warehouse for some unknown period of time, cooking in their chemicals. The scent went away on 2 of the bags after being aired out. But the third, a white Dooney, still has some "aroma" if you get your nose to close to it.

Interestingly, I've never noticed the smell when I am in any Dooney store. The bags on display have had a chance to air out. But even if they bring me a new bag from the back, wrapped in plastic, I've never noticed a smell.

battyoldbr­oad1282393365.2231205 PostsRegistered 6/19/2010

Don't know if this is the 'always' answer but sometimes I've smelled formaldehyde. I worked in a laboratory for years so know this smell. I think some places use this chemical to 'cure' the leather. I received one bag that I wanted to keep soooo bad - so I took the bag, put it into a large plastic bag, and sprayed it with febreeze and sealed it for a couple of days. When I took it out the odor was significantly reduced and then I hung it outside during a nice sunny day and most of the odor was gone by then. SO I was able to keep it!

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