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Chanel, Revlon and Johnson & Johnson will be testing on animals for products sold in China

Started 1343764609.46 in Beauty Banter | Last reply 1343838049.88 by chi5925

I don't start threads very often, but when I read this I was shocked!!!

I don't have any pets currently (grew up with cats all the time) and I'm not a member of PETA, however, it's truly a shame when companies choose profits over the lives of animals.

Don't wear much make-up but from now on, I will no longer purchase from these brands.

Below is actual story from UK Mail On-line. If you want to see the actual article, click on:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2181468/Big-beauty-brands-dropping-cruelty-free-animal-testing-policies-sell-products-China.html

Chanel, Revlon and Johnson & Johnson: The big-name beauty brands among those ditching cruelty-free animal testing policies to sell their products to China

-By law, all human cosmetics sold in China must first be tested on animals

-Lucrative Chinese beauty sales rose by 18 per cent to £10bn last year

-Cruelty Free International chief executive 'disappointed' to see brands 'letting animals pay the price' for their profit-chasing

By Suzannah Hills

PUBLISHED: 08:58 EST, 31 July 2012 | UPDATED: 13:17 EST, 31 July 2012

Several big name beauty companies have been forced to remove a logo that declares them free of animal cruelty after they decided to sell their products in China.

Christian Dior, Yves Saint Laurent, Chanel and L'Oreal are among the high end brands that can no longer use the internationally-recognised official Leaping Bunny logo to show their cosmetics are free from animal testing.

It comes after the firms decided to start selling to China where animal testing on beauty products for human use is still required by law.

Going global: Big-name beauty brands have changed their animal testing policies so they can start selling their products in China (posed by model)

Going global: Big-name beauty brands have changed their animal testing policies so they can start selling their products in China (posed by model)

Yves Saint Laurent's Touche Eclat concealor sells one tube every ten seconds around the world, but the company has decided to sell to the lucrative Chinese market, meaning it cannot call itself cruelty-free any more

Huge cosmetic names Avon, Estee Lauder and Revlon, along side the likes of Yardley and Johnson & Johnson have also recently changed their animal testing policies to enter the ever enlarging Chinese market.

Cosmetic sales in China increased by 18 per cent to £10billion last year - making it an attractive financial prospect.

But many companies selling their products in the country have been asked to fund animal testing of their products in Chinese laboratories in order for them to be sold to the public.

Cruelty Free International chief executive Michelle Thew said: 'The Humane Standards, symbolised by the Leaping Bunny logo, is the most rigorous international cruelty-free certification in the world.

'Each company is regularly audited to ensure that no animal testing takes place throughout each company’s entire supply chain.

'Where companies no longer comply with the Humane Standards, the right to use the Leaping Bunny logo is retracted.

'Following discussion with L’Occitane, its certification was retracted in mid-December.

'Some companies wish to bring ethical beauty to China, however this is not currently possible until China changes its current policy which requires animal testing.

'I am disappointed that certain companies have fallen prey to the lure of the Chinese market and are letting animals pay the price. Consumer pressure can make a difference.

The Leaping Bunny logo is used by brands that don't test on animals, useful for ethically-conscious beauty fans

'We certify over 400 companies around the world that refuse to allow animal testing into their products, so there is plenty of choice for everyone who wishes to eliminate this cruel, unnecessary and outdated practice.

'The only way that you can avoid animal testing in your toiletries and beauty products is by looking for the Leaping Bunny logo, or checking www.GoCrueltyFree.org.'

Britain banned animal testing in 1998 and several large cosmetics companies including Paul Mitchell, Sainbury's, The Co-operative, Superdrug, Marks & Spencer all have Leaping Bunny certification meaning they are cruelty-free.

Hair-care giant John Paul Mitchell Systems pulled out of China after being informed that the company would have to pay for animal tests in order to continue selling its products there.

Paul Mitchell CEO and co-founder John Paul DeJoria put sales in China on hold last year and confirmed they will not sell products in that country in order to remain committed to the company's cruelty-free policy.

Mr DeJoria said: 'Since Paul Mitchell was founded in 1980, we have been cruelty-free.

'We do not conduct or condone animal testing on our products, and we will not attempt to market our products in China until alternatives to animal testing methods have been accepted by the government.

'Paul Mitchell always has been and always will be cruelty-free.'

Dr Dan Lyons, Campaigns Director of internal animal protection organisation Uncaged, said it is down to individual companies to make a stand.

He continued: 'It's a fundamental decision companies need to make.

'It's much better if they stick to their principles and avoid China, which will put pressure on the government to change their own policies.

'It's unnecessary for China to require repeat and totally unnecessary testing on these products.'

Urban Decay has also recently decided to cancel its plans to enter the Chinese market after being informed of the animal testing requirements.

Spokesman for the charity People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) Foundation, Alistair Currie, said: 'We are seeing welcome signs of progress in China but their current animal testing requirements are a major factor pushing up cosmetics tests on animals globally.

'Companies who have turned their backs on their non-animal testing policies because of the lure of China have regressed a generation: their products are once again being dripped into rabbits' eyes and smeared onto animals' abraded skin.

'While many progressive and principled companies are sticking to their non-animal testing policies, others need more motivation.'

But the revelation that some large name brands are giving up their cruelty-free status to sell to China will come as a surprise to many shoppers.

And while an EU-wide ban on the marketing of animal-tested cosmetics is due to come into force next year, campaigners warn that the European Commission is now contemplating compromises or even delays to the legislation.

Mr Currie continued: 'It's vital that the EU protect its own ban on the sale of animal-tested cosmetics due in 2013.

'We've led the world on this issue – we mustn't take any steps backward right here in our own back yard.'

A spokesman for L'Occitane said: 'L'Occitane does not and never has tested its products on animals.

'Similarly, we insist that our suppliers certify that none of the ingredients we use are tested on animals.

'We do sell our products in China however and the Chinese government reserves the right to conduct tests, but we are hopeful that this situation will change soon.

'We are actively working with the BUAV, with whom we have a long term and constructive relationship, to influence the Chinese authorities to allow the alternative tests that apply elsewhere in the world.'

Jean-Christophe Samyn, Director of Caudalie UK, said: 'We are against animal testing. We do not test our ingredients and formulas on animals and never will.'

ARE YOUR FAVOURITE COSMETICS CRUELTY-FREE?

LEAPING BUNNY APPROVED

Paul Mitchell

Urban Decay

Sainbury's

Marks & Spencer

Liz Earle

Faith In Nature

The Co-operative

Burt's Bees

Dermalogica

Bull Dog

NON-APPROVED COMPANIES

L'Occitane

Yves Rocher

Caudalie

Mary Kay

Avon

Estee Lauder

Revlon

Garnier

L'Oreall

Chanel

Johnson & Johnson

FCUK

Clinique

Christian Dior

Givenchy

Yves Saint Laurent

Lancome

Virgin Vie

Yardley

Coty

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LuvsLabs1343765132.7572227 PostsRegistered 7/2/2012

It's a rule in China that if they are going to sell the product in China they test on animals. If it's made in China but NOT being sold there they don't test on animals is my understanding from previous threads.

AuntieA1343765623.12519 PostsRegistered 4/26/2012SF Bay Area

How disappointing...

I've recently purchased EO Products, Dr. Bronners, Mrs. Meyers and other leaping bunny approved products. I'm glad to see Urban Decay and Body Shop on the approved list.

If we open our minds to enjoyment, we might find tranquil pleasures spread about us on every side. We might live with the angels that visit us on every sunbeam, and sit with the fairies who wait on every flower. ~ Samuel Smiles

HappyDaze1343765874.2717382 PostsRegistered 6/13/2012

Johnson and Johnson has never been cruelty free. I didn't think Chanel was either so I am not sure why it says they are "ditching" their cruetly free ways.

The other brands listed are ones I've avoided for years now because most also have been testing on animals or were at least owned by parent companies that do test.

Thanks for posting though for those that didn't already know that.

gradstuden­tMom1343766148.55962 PostsRegistered 12/2/2011

L'Occitane???

Retired081343766168.7175330 PostsRegistered 2/2/2008 Beautiful Coastal Georgia

Geez. It's not like the Chinese need help being cruel to animals. I've seen too many documentaries on how they treat their animals. When will this greed end?

What you put into the lives of others comes back into your own.

sly12161343766722.28387 PostsRegistered 6/12/2012

I was already under the impression these companies were on the "naughty" list....glad to know I can spend my money elsewhere. I've recently switched to Paul Mitchell products because they are cruelty free, and, besides feeling better about the animals, my hair is doing well with it, so it is a double bonus. Money talks, and while a lot of people seem to not care, I choose to spend my hard-earned money on companies that deserve it. When it gets a little frustrating, I look at my dogs and think if anyone tried to drip things in their eyes, rub things on their skin, or make them ingest something harmful, I wouldn't think twice about hurting them...it's only fair to all their fur friends to treat them the same.

HappyDaze1343767163.2917382 PostsRegistered 6/13/2012
On 7/31/2012 sly1216 said:

I was already under the impression these companies were on the "naughty" list....glad to know I can spend my money elsewhere. I've recently switched to Paul Mitchell products because they are cruelty free, and, besides feeling better about the animals, my hair is doing well with it, so it is a double bonus. Money talks, and while a lot of people seem to not care, I choose to spend my hard-earned money on companies that deserve it. When it gets a little frustrating, I look at my dogs and think if anyone tried to drip things in their eyes, rub things on their skin, or make them ingest something harmful, I wouldn't think twice about hurting them...it's only fair to all their fur friends to treat them the same.

I do this too! {#emotions_dlg.crying}

chi59251343767785.581953 PostsRegistered 1/3/2006
On 7/31/2012 gradstudentMom said:

L'Occitane???

Yes, I am totally bummed because I LOVE their Shea Butter hand cream. Been using it for years.

I know I am just one person but I'm no longer going to use it. There are probably other hand creams out there that must be just as good.

darlindarla1343768153.793140 PostsRegistered 8/14/2011
On 7/31/2012 LuvsLabs said:

It's a rule in China that if they are going to sell the product in China they test on animals. If it's made in China but NOT being sold there they don't test on animals is my understanding from previous threads.

Wow, talk about devolution.

Assuming the article is correct it definitely states that cosmetics sold in China must be tested on animals.

...firms decided to start selling to China where animal testing on beauty products for human use is still required by law.

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

tracy1343785085.37337 PostsRegistered 4/9/2010

The chinese have no problem selling poisonous products to humans but they need mascara tested on animals. Sorry to be rude but this country is nuts

KatCat11343789064.98717492 PostsRegistered 7/21/2011

They don't test on cats and dogs. I certainly don't agree with it but is anyone going to stop using their favorite product if they find out it is animal tested and you have been using it for years? I actually thought that animal testing was banned period.

HappyDaze1343789309.6117382 PostsRegistered 6/13/2012
On 7/31/2012 KatCat1 said:

They don't test on cats and dogs. I certainly don't agree with it but is anyone going to stop using their favorite product if they find out it is animal tested and you have been using it for years? I actually thought that animal testing was banned period.

Yes, I will and have, on many, many occasions. All of my household cleaning products and laundry stuff I used for many years and changed everything. Same with some of my favorite mascaras and foundation. I've never found a foundation I like as well after all these years but I will NOT go back to it. I can go on and on with all the products I used for years and have since stopped using once I realized they were tested on animals.

hiselk4211343789520.7640 PostsRegistered 9/21/2010
On 7/31/2012 KatCat1 said:

They don't test on cats and dogs. I certainly don't agree with it but is anyone going to stop using their favorite product if they find out it is animal tested and you have been using it for years? I actually thought that animal testing was banned period.

I wish it would be completely banned, but it isn't. They test on every kind of animal, along with cats, dogs, rabbits, and the list goes on.

My family tries very hard to buy cruelty free products, including our cleaning ones. They really are out there and not just in health food stores. Our local Giant has a great "healthy section" with many cruelty free products.

As for skin care and makeup, I will only purchase cruelty free. I was recently approached by a friend of mine who just starting selling Avon and she wanted to come do a facial for me. At one point in time, they were cruelty free but no more. I believe someone posted here a few weeks ago about Urban Decay possibly starting testing again, but with everyone's outrage, they decided to stick with their no testing policy. At least I thought that I read that. Maybe someone here might know more.

Thank you OT for this thread. I thought that Revlon was one of the "good ones"; I'm sorry to hear they are going back to testing again.

luvitall1343789958.6772361 PostsRegistered 10/27/2006

While their cruelty to animals is deplorable and completely unnecessary for the sake of cosmetics, look how horrifically they have treated the female children that are born!

hiselk4211343790199.817640 PostsRegistered 9/21/2010
On 7/31/2012 luvitall said:

While their cruelty to animals is deplorable and completely unnecessary for the sake of cosmetics, look how horrifically they have treated the female children that are born!

No argument there.

sly1216134379255587 PostsRegistered 6/12/2012
On 7/31/2012 KatCat1 said:

They don't test on cats and dogs. I certainly don't agree with it but is anyone going to stop using their favorite product if they find out it is animal tested and you have been using it for years? I actually thought that animal testing was banned period.

They test on every kind of animal - google "Beagle Freedom Project." And yes, I have and will stop using a "favorite" product if I find out its tested on animals. I've had to change a majority of cleaning and cosmetic products, but it's worth it. A great mascara is all well and good, but it can't be a favorite of mine to know that an animal lived a life of torture for it. Laundry detergent and eyeshadow are not worth it.

BurbankKate1343792645.266188 PostsRegistered 11/18/2007Home of: Disney Studios,W. Bros, Nickelodeon, Cartoon network, media capital of the world
Www.100percentpure.com.....never tested on fur babies...and good for you too!

- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is then strong enough to take everything you have.
- Thomas Jefferson

chi59251343838049.8571953 PostsRegistered 1/3/2006
On 7/31/2012 hiselk421 said:
On 7/31/2012 luvitall said:

While their cruelty to animals is deplorable and completely unnecessary for the sake of cosmetics, look how horrifically they have treated the female children that are born!

No argument there.

No argument here x2 either.

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