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Retinol is yellow?

Started 1328469554.1 in Beauty Banter | Last reply 1328483240.48 by BellaCarro

That is what the vendor for Beauty BioScience said on HSN today. She said it is a gold color and if your retinol product is not yellow or yellowish, it doesn't have enough retinol. I'm thinking it is true because the Isomers Retiniacin and the Tretinoin cream I used to have did have a yellowish color.

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Dharma_Ini­tiative1328469880.1034136 PostsRegistered 7/16/2007

Never heard this before, don't know how true it is. NCN Trans Retinol 2% is light yellow. PTR Retinol Fusion is a clear liquid though.

BellaCarro1328470018.6137572 PostsRegistered 10/1/2011Atlanta

I saw that presentation as well. I've become so jaded about claims I just did not think much of it. My RetinA .1% is not yellow, though.

Dharma_Ini­tiative1328470084.5734136 PostsRegistered 7/16/2007

Yeah Retin A is not yellow but that's different than retinol so I think it would be comparing apples to oranges.

ETA: Oh, I see the OP mentioned Tretinoin cream. I'm confused now. Are we talking about Tretinoin (Retin A) or retinol. Not the same thing.

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BellaCarro1328470186.9637572 PostsRegistered 10/1/2011Atlanta
On 2/5/2012 Dharma_Initiative said:

Yeah Retin A is not yellow but that's different than retinol so I think it would be comparing apples to oranges.

But, during the presentation she compared retinol and RetinA. Sha called them basically the same thing.

Dharma_Ini­tiative1328470601.194136 PostsRegistered 7/16/2007
On 2/5/2012 BellaCarro said:
On 2/5/2012 Dharma_Initiative said:

Yeah Retin A is not yellow but that's different than retinol so I think it would be comparing apples to oranges.

But, during the presentation she compared retinol and RetinA. Sha called them basically the same thing.

{#emotions_dlg.blink} oh (??)

Shelbelle1328474677.91733990 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004

I remember when Isomers had an Idebenone product it was bright yellow, is that Vit A also?

Dharma_Ini­tiative1328476229.0474136 PostsRegistered 7/16/2007
On 2/5/2012 BellaCarro said:
On 2/5/2012 Dharma_Initiative said:

Yeah Retin A is not yellow but that's different than retinol so I think it would be comparing apples to oranges.

But, during the presentation she compared retinol and RetinA. Sha called them basically the same thing.

Ok, yes, both are retinoids....had to refresh my memory by looking it up...

Retinoids are vitamin A derivatives.They are found in prescription, Retin-A creams (Renova, Avage, or Differin), as well as over-the-counter creams, which are commonly referred to as retinol creams. Besides their method of procurement there is one basic difference between the two – retinol creams are less irritating to the skin than their prescription cousins.

With over-the-counter retinol creams, the retinol is slowly converted to retinoic acid, which is the active ingredient in prescription creams. It may simply take more time (up to 12 weeks) to notice a difference in your skin than if you’d been using the prescription variety (4-8 weeks). You will also notice a difference in your pocket book! Retinol creams are quite a bit less expensive than the prescription creams.

cassiem1328480543.8276666 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004

I found a descripiton of retinol that says it is a pale yellow. Retinyl Palmitate is yellow to red-yellow. However, I've seen lots of products that contain a high percentage of retinol that aren't yellow. I'm not sure the color makes that much difference as it can change depending on the other ingredients. The product that BioScience is selling contains ginger root extract, which IS yellow and could account for the very slight golden color of the product. Isomers retiniacin contains sandalwood oil which is a golden color, which could expain the color of the product.

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Keli131328483012.2677516 PostsRegistered 1/24/2006
On 2/5/2012 BellaCarro said:
On 2/5/2012 Dharma_Initiative said:

Yeah Retin A is not yellow but that's different than retinol so I think it would be comparing apples to oranges.

But, during the presentation she compared retinol and RetinA. Sha called them basically the same thing.

Other than both being retinoids they are not alike. She's wrong. The way they both chemically act on the skin are very, very, different. Retinol needs to go through a few conversions chemically to even try to be anywhere close to a prescription retinoid like Retin-A or Renova. Much benefit is lost during these conversions.

Not all is lost though.

That said, if a persons skin is sensitive or their just starting out using retinoids, retinol products are excellent for the skin. No where near as strong or as direct acting as prescription retinoids but better than many skincare products out there..

BellaCarro1328483240.487572 PostsRegistered 10/1/2011Atlanta

But, to OP's point, the presenter most def. stated that if your retinol is not yellow it is not of very high efficacy. Personally, I don't necessarily believe that. As I mentioned earlier, I'm getting jaded with all of these claims. Kind of a shame 'cause one day something will be mentioned that is probably on target.

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