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Cool? Warm? Yellow undertones? Pink undertones? To this day... I have no idea!

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I'm almost 58 years old and still have no idea whatsoever if I have yellow or pink undertones and whether I'm a cool or a warm! LOL I've gotten different answers from different cosmetics people. The vein test doesn't work on me since some look green and some look blue. So when I try to find a foundation shade...I still don't know whether to look for something with yellow or pink undertones! LOL

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GmaJewell1301591240.797201 PostsRegistered 12/10/2010NE of Seattle

I am exactly the same way!! I am very fair with ??? undertones! I have blue and green veins...

Some pinks I wear do turn color on me, they don't stay a true pink. Blushes turn a little orangy as well as pinker lipstick or gloses. Both warm and cool colors in clothes look okay. I don't look good in winter white, but do look good in both cool and warm blues, greens, reds, pinks, browns etc...

What's a girl to do?!!?

PinkyPetun­ia1301591275.434558 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004NJ

More info needed. What is your coloring--hair, eyes, skin (Fair, light, medium, etc.) What colors do you look best in?

ValentinaB­on1301591484.0136934 PostsRegistered 3/18/2011

I am the same way and have just decided I have both yellow and pink undertones. I have to try things on in person and can't rely on recommendations from other fair to light ladies because what works on most may not work on me. Red lipsticks always turn coral or orange on me and I have a really hard time with blush colors so tend not to use them. It is frustrating and makes it more difficult to purchase products, especially over the internet without trying it on.

DUH....WENing! :)

scatcat1301592569.511412 PostsRegistered 11/19/2006

I have brown eyes and hair. I wear medium beige in BE. I look better in gold jewelry than silver (but still wear a ton of silver). I think my veins look blue on the inside of my wrists. Thanks!

Jam1301593164.6531600 PostsRegistered 7/16/2007
On 3/31/2011 NiteStar said:

I'm almost 58 years old and still have no idea whatsoever if I have yellow or pink undertones and whether I'm a cool or a warm! LOL I've gotten different answers from different cosmetics people. The vein test doesn't work on me since some look green and some look blue. So when I try to find a foundation shade...I still don't know whether to look for something with yellow or pink undertones! LOL

I would say that if you are 58 and don't know which you are then you are a neutral. I am very cool-toned and knew in the seventh grade that silver/white gold looked better on me than gold. I also learned early on that if I wore yellow, people would be asking me all day if I felt OK. A lot of cosmetic lines have neutrals because they have tried to pawn them off on me! LOL

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ohioglamgal1301593328.5132048 PostsRegistered 3/1/2007

Call yourself a neutral and be done with it?!?

I don't know...I feel the same as you do sometimes. With the vein tests, the 'advice' from beauty counters, etc. I've been told I look good in both warm and cool colors and I feel good in a variety of warm/cool shades. What is a gal to do? Lately, I've just been concentrating more on what the color looks like once it's on my skin then what the name of it is...I'll sort of go with my gut on color choices if I'm ordering online. If I have to return something...then I return it and move on.

NiteStar1301594241.522327 PostsRegistered 12/8/2004

Well, as for me....my "natural" hair color is medium brown and I have brown eyes. My skin tone is what I personally would say is medium to light medium and I think I look better with gold jewelry rather than silver. Or maybe it's just that I like yellow gold better than silver or white gold. I look great in corals and melon colors as far as clothes, but those colors on me as blush make my face just look dirty. I also don't look good in dark purple or ANY shade of green.

livein kin­dness1301594711.703698 PostsRegistered 12/17/2010Michigan

I am 60 and still so not know. I have fair skin but foundation with pink in it makes me look odd. I can not wear white,but I look good in both warm and cool colors. It is just like the picture of the sample on web site, how on earth can you tell what matches your skin I never look like any of them.

Clover291301594935.58710678 PostsRegistered 1/19/2008

I've never been able to work this out either. I can't choose between silver and gold as to which looks "better" on me. The only thing I am sure of, is that I like cool and warm dark colors and hate to wear anything pastel (except white/cream).

I have dark hair, olive skin, but blue rather than brown eyes. I don't think the warm/cool color thing works on me, so it's good news that there's such a thing as "neutral". I'll happily settle for that.

Quinny1301597534.8572470 PostsRegistered 1/21/2009

I'm 53 and have no warm/cool, pink/yellow idea either. I have both blue and green veins, my "under skin" tone is yellow in some areas and pink in others. There are some cool colors I feel look good on me and some warm as well. I think unless we are definitely pink (check all the pink boxes) or definitely yellow (check all the yellow boxes), then we are all neutral or beige.

Wear what you think looks good on you. If you put on a color of jewelry, makeup or clothing that is unattractive on you, you will know it imediately. Enjoy your "inbetweeness" and don't worry about the rules so much. If a cosmetics SA is trying to convince you that you are definitely pink or yellow, just tell them you'd like to try a pink, a yellow and a neutral. I bet you like the neutral one the best!

di-mc1301597668.0477506 PostsRegistered 12/4/2006the real world

Count me in the "have no idea" group! I generally try to select neutral make-up and hope for the best.

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BESwede1301597675.9036218 PostsRegistered 6/4/2007Colorado

I had my colors "done" as a high school graduation gift from a family friend (very popular at the time !) and still have the chart they gave me with swatches of colors that are the most flattering for my coloring. It's always been very helpful in choosing clothing colors although I'm pretty much the exact model of "cool" tones- look good in jewel tones like green, red, blue, purple, etc. and awful in oranges, yellows, gold, beige and similiar. Jewelry of either gold or silver looks ok but silver is more flattering. Can't say the looking at my veins would help- I see both blue and green. The book "Color Me Beautiful" is still around and helps determine cool/warm tones, most flattering shades and your "season" and I believe they have a website where you can take the quiz and get your color and also season with recommendations for colors. Might be fun to try it :)

47, very fair, blonde, green eyes, cool "summer" coloring, combination/sensitive skin. Vegetarian

gigi11251301597701.567803 PostsRegistered 11/4/2010

I'm so glad I finally have a name for what I am! Neutral!

lovetosing1301597971.0676138 PostsRegistered 4/3/2006

Mac online specialist gave me a great way to know, turn your arm over and look at your veins. If they are green you are yellow if they are blue you are pink. That is how I knew for sure and the foundation is a perfect match on me that they suggested.

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happy hous­ewife1301598023.24332108 PostsRegistered 1/4/2007

i think these things change with time - when I was young I was a natural redhead - auburn actually, but a definate warm toned medium skin. however, as I have aged and my hair turned white my skin has also changed to very fair and cool toned.

When faced with senseless drama, spiteful criticism or misguided opinions walking away is the best way to defend yourself.To respond with anger is an endorsement of their attitude. -Dodinsky

corgikeeper1301598112.363444 PostsRegistered 4/8/2010

Salespeople have tried to tell me I have yellow undertones, which I think would make me "warm."

However, I look best in white metals and think I look OK in white (vs cream)

When I put on yellow I look like a train wreck, so maybe I am cool after all!

Warm ladies, does yellow really look good on you? When I put on a yellow top I had bought to make a cute outfit, I looked like I had jaundice!

Take all your problems
And rip 'em apart
Carry them off
In a shopping cart...
-The White Stripes

tantallum1301598149.8431468 PostsRegistered 10/31/2006Chicago, IL

I went to a 'makeup party' and was told I was cool and that most women are cool. but then I have had several makeup consultations (mac, bobbi brown, etc) that said most people are warm. who the heck knows!

happy hous­ewife1301598196.6232108 PostsRegistered 1/4/2007
On 3/31/2011 lovetosing said:

Mac online specialist gave me a great way to know, turn your arm over and look at your veins. If they are green you are yellow if they are blue you are pink. That is how I knew for sure and the foundation is a perfect match on me that they suggested.

i have been looking at people's veins for 44 years - for the purpose of inserting IV's in them and I have yet to see a green vein. Every single one I have ever looked at, and I'm talking thousands of them, have been blue.

When faced with senseless drama, spiteful criticism or misguided opinions walking away is the best way to defend yourself.To respond with anger is an endorsement of their attitude. -Dodinsky

KweenB1301599220.6772167 PostsRegistered 11/27/2010

I tend to look better in colors that are advertised as neutral or beige undertone. If it says "golden" or "warm," it's definitely too yellow for me!

Wildapple1301599953.473762 PostsRegistered 11/17/2008Down Home

Have you ever worn anything (a top for example) and had someone say "Wow, you look good" "That's your color" Your skin and eyes look bright"? If you have then research that color and see where it falls on the warm/cool spectrum.

Whenever I wear orange, peach, coral, terra cotta, pumpkin, etc., I get those kind of compliments.

kay201301604401.941038 PostsRegistered 1/24/2008Texas

You're not alone. I have been wondering what I am for awhile now. I have bluish green veins and can get away with wearing cool and warm colors. I think I am more on the warm side but it's barely so I think I'm pretty much neutral.

ChynaGirl1301604614.2633895 PostsRegistered 12/2/2005
On 3/31/2011 NiteStar said:

I'm almost 58 years old and still have no idea whatsoever if I have yellow or pink undertones and whether I'm a cool or a warm! LOL I've gotten different answers from different cosmetics people. The vein test doesn't work on me since some look green and some look blue. So when I try to find a foundation shade...I still don't know whether to look for something with yellow or pink undertones! LOL

Oh NiteStar! {#emotions_dlg.biggrin} Your story is my story. Hair colors, MAC counter, ugh... blue AND green veins, can wear pastels AND earthy, warm colors. Looking forward to others' responses!

Homebody11301605026.8471891 PostsRegistered 7/23/2005

I saw on tv or read somewhere that if you bend your arm and pinch your skin at your elbow, if it shows up pink, you have pink undertones and yellowish, they you have the yellow undertones, mine are pink.

Do not judge me by my past...I'm not in the past anymore. Accept me for who I am because this is me TODAY.

T Mama1301605076.953108 PostsRegistered 6/9/2009

I think even if you are neutral, you will still look better in either warm or cool colors. I have neutral skintone, but always look best in crisp, cool colors - jewel tones. I can wear either gold or silver. I had my colors done in the 80's 3 times, two said I was a spring and one said I was a winter. I am actually a winter, I think my highlighted hair and tan back then made me look warmer. I look better in Pinks than peaches. If you have natural gold or red tones in your hair, you are probably warm. I would try to get foundation in the neutral range which most cosmetic companies have and figure out which colors look GREAT on you, not just okay.

beach-mom1301606087.4439744 PostsRegistered 8/1/2007Mid-Atlantic

Here is my two cents. My standard reply for anyone who is interested in this. I've been interested since I first helped as a "model" for one of Carole Jackson's trainers!

What follows here I know. For the record, I am warm. I look best in ivory, rust, olive green, etc. I have a friend who has been a fashion consultant for many years. When she started out, she used me as one of her "models" for clothes and makeup (she was the one who got me to get rid of my tiny earposts and go with some larger ones!) She taught me this, which I still use today to give advice to anyone who asks me:

One of the easiest ways to determine if you lean to cool or warm is to put off-white/ivory and pure white next to your face. Which looks better? If your face stands out with one, that is not the color for you. You want a blended look. If it looks better with pure white, that's usually cool; off-white is usually warm. If pure white gives your face a greyish look, you're probably warm. One client wondered if anyone could look good with stark white next to her face. Think of Snow White with very dark hair and red lips. I have a friend who has black hair and she looks terrific in stark white. I don't look that great! It washes me out. I still wear it if I feel like it, but I adjust my makeup (which is another trick my friend taught me). If cream or off-white gives your face a creamy, glowing look, you're probably warm. If you look good in jewel-toned colors (emerald, sapphire, ruby), you are probably "cool." If you look good in earth-toned colors or the colors of leaves, you're probably "warm."

THIS IS JUST A GUIDELINE! I believe that any woman can wear any color of makeup or clothes she wants. We know what looks good on us, and if it gives us pleasure to wear it, we will. But some colors make us look terrific, and this is a guideline for finding those colors.

Usually warm colors look great in gold jewelry, and cool colors look best in silver. That doesn't mean you CAN'T wear the opposite color. It just means those colors favor you. One of my favorite things to do is look at female newscasters and "type" them!

NiteStar - sometimes the "vein" thing can be misleading, and people can lean to neutral too. It sounds to me like you might be warm.

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