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We are thinking of moving from Palm Beach Gardens, Florida to North Phoenix, Arizona. Anyone live in Ariozna there that can share pros and cons with me.  Thank you :)
 

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LeslieR1274618206.94316 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004

We lived in that area for almost ten years - though that was twelve years ago, some things have changed.

It would help to know what sort of things you want comparisons on - but I will try some generalities.

It is beautiful country, but it is hot in the summer - I mean HOT. Coming from FL you might not think it as hot as I did, because I know that southern humidity is heavy. Winters do get chilly enough to keep a fire in the hearth, but not all winter long - just a crisp few weeks.  Spring is gorgeous, the desert in bloom is so beautiful.  The people are friendly and it's easy to navigate around.   There is a lot to do, easy day trips to explore all around.  There are a lot of good things about AZ that I miss, but I don't miss August - we had a wonderful ten years there and have absolutely no regrets. 

Packaging is attractive, but never judge a book by it's cover - content is far more important.

france541274618216.6773239 PostsRegistered 1/29/2010

{#emotions_dlg.scared} Yes my uncle and his wife lived in a few places in Florida for almost 50 years! They moved to Arizona about three years ago, My uncle and aunt who have lived in Florida all those years... complained about the summers and the heat! They are moving to California to be closer to there son and his family! I wish you good luck with your move!{#emotions_dlg.blush}

Life is too short to sweat the small stuff!

coleson1274618791.673213 PostsRegistered 4/20/2006
On 5/23/2010 LeslieR said:

We lived in that area for almost ten years - though that was twelve years ago, some things have changed.

It would help to know what sort of things you want comparisons on - but I will try some generalities.

It is beautiful country, but it is hot in the summer - I mean HOT. Coming from FL you might not think it as hot as I did, because I know that southern humidity is heavy. Winters do get chilly enough to keep a fire in the hearth, but not all winter long - just a crisp few weeks.  Spring is gorgeous, the desert in bloom is so beautiful.  The people are friendly and it's easy to navigate around.   There is a lot to do, easy day trips to explore all around.  There are a lot of good things about AZ that I miss, but I don't miss August - we had a wonderful ten years there and have absolutely no regrets. 

 Thank you for sharing :)

coleson1274618851.33213 PostsRegistered 4/20/2006
On 5/23/2010 matty02 said:

{#emotions_dlg.scared} Yes my uncle and his wife lived in a few places in Florida for almost 50 years! They moved to Arizona about three years ago, My uncle and aunt who have lived in Florida all those years... complained about the summers and the heat! They are moving to California to be closer to there son and his family! I wish you good luck with your move!{#emotions_dlg.blush}

 Thank you.  Two cents... if invested well... can add up to millions :)

hopi1274619216.77710862 PostsRegistered 11/26/2006

 

Pros 

North Phoenix Arizona

very elite area

nice people

beautiful spas

amazing shopping

super high ends stores

great cost of living prices

great restaurants

pretty good traffic

nice highway system

within a 1 to 2 hour drive you can change your climate and scenery drastically

8 months out of the year the most amazing weather in the world

law and order state

Cons

You have to learn to respect the sun and the heat

You will have to turn on the AC

 

LeslieR1274619440.827316 PostsRegistered 10/6/2004
On 5/23/2010 hopi said:

 

Pros 

North Phoenix Arizona

very elite area

nice people

beautiful spas

amazing shopping

super high ends stores

great cost of living prices

great restaurants

pretty good traffic

nice highway system

within a 1 to 2 hour drive you can change your climate and scenery drastically

8 months out of the year the most amazing weather in the world

law and order state

Cons

You have to learn to respect the sun and the heat

You will have to turn on the AC

 

 Hopi summed it up very well -

 

Packaging is attractive, but never judge a book by it's cover - content is far more important.

IEBear1274619663.907217 PostsRegistered 3/24/2010

You should also factor in the tax differences between Florida and Arizona - i.e. slightly less sales tax, but a state income tax.  Some of that is found here.

coleson1274620412.487213 PostsRegistered 4/20/2006
On 5/23/2010 hopi said:

 

Pros 

North Phoenix Arizona

very elite area

nice people

beautiful spas

amazing shopping

super high ends stores

great cost of living prices

great restaurants

pretty good traffic

nice highway system

within a 1 to 2 hour drive you can change your climate and scenery drastically

8 months out of the year the most amazing weather in the world

law and order state

Cons

You have to learn to respect the sun and the heat

You will have to turn on the AC

 

 Thank you so much :) I agree with all of that!

moxiebelle1274622118.6071403 PostsRegistered 10/10/2009

My son lives in Arizona. We have visited him twice since he moved there and I love it. Almost every town has an historical section with fun little shops and antique shops. Flagstaff was amazing. I could have been in northern California with all the pine trees and the snow.

I would move there, but I won't leave my grandson. He needs me and I need him.

"A grandchild fill a space in your heart that you never knew was empty."
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LadyBug771274623902.7031685 PostsRegistered 6/4/2008

Silly question - but I've always heard that AZ is a good place for those people who suffer with allergies.  Is that true? 

TimeforTur­ning1274640057.9531234 PostsRegistered 9/27/2008USA

I've heard that all my life, it's supposedly due to the low humidity, etc.  I know when we lived in Tucson (or very close), the air "felt" different - in a good way!  I can't tell you about Phoenix.  I understand there's quite a lot of property crime there - of course, if you are in a gated community or whatever, I'm sure it would be good.  But personally, I'd give my eye teeth to go back to AZ!  Loved it.

hopi1274641144.38310862 PostsRegistered 11/26/2006
On 5/23/2010 Renee In Paris said:

Silly question - but I've always heard that AZ is a good place for those people who suffer with allergies.  Is that true? 

The sun and dry warmth appear to help allergies, sinus, lungs, and arthritis, weak bones etc.

In the old days,

Dr.'s used to recommend very ill young and old to move to such climates. The scenery

and calm is good for the soul and emotional healing you can feel it immediately. 

TimeforTur­ning1274642161.4471234 PostsRegistered 9/27/2008USA

^Yeah, Sedona has "vortexes."  I noticed the other day that there's a poster who lives in Sedona - lucky lady!  Beautiful but caters to tourists, they should've kept it unspoiled, etc.

Brabls1274642321.65314740 PostsRegistered 4/27/2007
On 5/23/2010 Renee In Paris said:

Silly question - but I've always heard that AZ is a good place for those people who suffer with allergies.  Is that true? 

 It was until notherners came down & planted a bunch of green grass & plants.  Less of a haven now.

miss_Moria1274642982.875537 PostsRegistered 4/15/2009Somewhere between Shangri La and Heaven

Trading weather, your tropical rainforest humidity heat will be oven HOT and very dry, some can tolerate the dry heat and in August and July, the nights do not cool down much and it is still hot at 1 a.m. though not AS hot. 

The nights in AZ are beautiful.  Sun 360 days of the year too.  Even though it may cloud over and rain, usually it clears up and becomes sunny again. 

North Phoenix is beautiful and very nice.  I would stick there if you do decide to move or the Chandler area or North Scottsdale. 

I agree with Hopi.  One of the drawbacks, since a lot of people have moved here, the traffic isn't as good as it used to be and it can get nasty.  They are looking to widening the road up to the very north of Phoenix, I7 to Anthem and it can get congested.  If you aren't considering the Anthem area, you should be fine.  Cave Creek and or Carefree are beautiful. 

I don't know about the automobile taxes in Florida but in AZ, it isn't cheap.  Newer cars pay a premium in Maricopa County and emissions are every two years. 

Houses, food and groceries are cheaper than in other places. Food is taxed though. 

All we are is the result of what we have thought. Buddha

zoologist1274699735.361745 PostsRegistered 1/29/2010

My neighbor moved there ONLY with her husband's promise they'd be able to return to normal living here in Indiana in 3 yrs.

All of the houses lots of scorching hot rock/sand, no beautiful green, lush grass, the kids have to say indoors til dusk or later, air's so dry they all have nosebleeds much of the time, itchy, flaky skin (too dry), nobody's friendly, not much to do, etc.

She's hated it from day 1, and so have the kids.  Hubby works non-stop, so he's happy as a clam in his A/C highrise office.

NO WAY would I move there.

Desertdi1274700494.12315808 PostsRegistered 7/14/2007Surface of the Sun

no humidity and no..........allegators!

duffie1274702276.36338 PostsRegistered 1/5/2008infinity and beyond

arizona is beautiful but as every place there are pros and cons. (!) crickets that eat carpet you need to call exterminator every month. (@) dust storms that enter every crevice of your home. (3)neighbors who change every month very hard to get to know anyone.(4)they are going to widen I10 as if the traffic isn't bad enough! and I 10 goes right thru phoenix.(5) the smog!!! phoenix has become 1 of the unhealthiest cities in uas as the smog comes over the mountains from LA.(6)the gang activity,you can not camp out in state parks anymore as the threat of gangs beating tourists and visitors for drug money.(7)hard liquor is sold in grocery stores.(8)the city has a NASCAR track, a woman's basketball team which were champs last year.(9) and a great football and basketball stadiums.(10)the desert is beautiful in the spring and the beautiful hummingbirds.(11)the heat is dry but still deadly thats why everyone goes out between 8-10am and 4-8 pm to avoid the heat.(12) the indians have a casino not far from phoenix. we almost moved ther several years ago but elderly parents neede our attention and never got there. homes are priced much cheaper than in the northeast but isn't everything?? oh the furnace filters have to be changed once a month because of the pollen. arizona used to be good for allergy sufferes but they have imported so much plants and grasses that allergies still are a problem. like i said every place has its pros and cons. life is what you make it!

azgal1274703915.121282 PostsRegistered 7/31/2007arizona
On 5/23/2010 miss_Moria said:

I agree with Hopi.  One of the drawbacks, since a lot of people have moved here, the traffic isn't as good as it used to be and it can get nasty.  They are looking to widening the road up to the very north of Phoenix, I7 to Anthem and it can get congested.  If you aren't considering the Anthem area, you should be fine.  Cave Creek and or Carefree are beautiful. 

I don't know about the automobile taxes in Florida but in AZ, it isn't cheap.  Newer cars pay a premium in Maricopa County and emissions are every two years. 

Houses, food and groceries are cheaper than in other places. Food is taxed though. 

The I-17 project is completed. It's great. Food is taxed in some cities. Phoenix just put in a 2% tax on food but way north Phoenix and part of Anthem are county and are not taxed on food.

I live in the desert hills area which is more rural and my son lives in Anthem about 10 minutes north.Anthem is a planned community with lots of things for families to do . My son and his family love it.

When you live north you don't really feel like you are in a big city yet you still have good shopping.

I agree with what Hopi said too.

Good luck with your decision. Let us know.

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lulu21274708020.2621153 PostsRegistered 8/1/2007

My sister relocated from NYC to Sedona about 3 years ago.  She thinks the area is gorgeous but the economy is awful.  She and her husband have only been employed sporadically since the move.  If they sold their home, they'd be lucky to get half what they paid. They are caught between a rock and hard place.

TimeforTur­ning1274709142.551234 PostsRegistered 9/27/2008USA

"All of the houses lots of scorching hot rock/sand, no beautiful green, lush grass, the kids have to say indoors til dusk or later, air's so dry they all have nosebleeds much of the time, itchy, flaky skin (too dry), nobody's friendly, not much to do, etc."

Wow, I guess people see things differently - let me say I wasn't in AZ during the summer, that makes a difference, but here's what I liked about it:

^you mentioned no green grass - LOL, that's precisely what I LIKED about AZ! No grass to mow!!! I loved the way people's yards looked. You could landscape with gravel, rock, stone, or whatever. Everything looked so much neater!

I also liked the fact that you never saw that greenish mold on the side of houses, like you do in KY. Low humidity in AZ = no mold. You could store things outside without worrying about mold and dampness, etc.

I also liked the fact that they don't have tornados. Even mobile homes are not tied-down, like they are here.

The air was dry, yes - we bought a humidifier and kept it on, the static electricity was crazy!

As for the people, I loved the people I met - everything is from somewhere else - I met a couple of people from England, which was a real thrill for me because I always wanted to go there! There are few native Tucsonians but I did meet a few. But my goodness, I thought folks were awfully friendly.

Can you tell I like Arizona? LOL

4KICKS1274723042.922037 PostsRegistered 11/11/2006Sunny AZ

My answer would depend a lot on whether you are retired or still work.  The biggest change would be in the HUMIDITY.  I live north of Tucson but travel to the Phoenix area often.  I would really suggest visiting here if you are thinking of moving.  Maybe if you are retired you can rent a home in the area you are thinking of moving to for a month or so and actually seeing what it is like to live here before actually making the move.  Visit VRBO.

People seldom change.
They just get better at what they do.

Lindsays G­randma1274768088.8674296 PostsRegistered 5/3/2007Arizona, formerly San Fernando Valley, CA

The day I saw a man walk into a WalMart with his wife and two children with a handgun sticking out of his belt, I knew this was not the place for me!  There are many reasons we don't like it here but I won't go into them.  I lived in SO.CA. for 40 years and would go back in the blink of an eye if I could afford it.  To each his own and I am happy for those of you who like it here.

"Kindness is the language the blind can see and the deaf can hear ~~~ Mark Twain

Lindsay's Grandma

babcias51274993009.841376 PostsRegistered 1/12/2009Az.

I live in north Phoenix..Have been here 30 yrs. It does get hot..But the humidity is usually low, until the monsoon season comes in late July..Our monsoons are not non-stop rains as you would think..It's harder for me to tollerate the extreme humidity in other states compared to Az...When it's 90 & humidity is 98 in Florida & the midwest, it's unbearable..Either way, everything is air conditioned anyway in most states..

We have 9 great months & 3 months of heat..Picture opening an oven that was set at 400 degrees, that is our summer..The land is beautiful..Lots of mountains, lots to see. If you drive 15 minutes the scenery changes. You can ski in the morning & swim in the evening. Traffic is horrible...If you live by a mountain you must be caucious of scorpions.They are not deadly as most people think..I've been bitten 4 times in all these years & only the first one gave me a reaction.

My kids did BMX bike racing year-round when they were young. Hiking is another great activity..If you live to be 100, you could still not see all that AZ. offers...We were never sorry for moving here..Still love it.

babcias5

dancingwom­an1274993650.28888 PostsRegistered 10/19/2004

I agree with everything Hopi said...the heat can be unbearable...but..9 months of the year its great..

If you garden..it will be a whole new gardening experience...The Botanical Gardens there is beautiful..I love desert landscaping..

We lived in Scottsdale for 7 years and are now in SW Co...

If you are buying a house..I'd say nows the time to buy thats for sure..the downturn in the economy had really hit the housing market there..not good for sellers but great for buyers..

As an example..in the area where our friends lived in Paradise Valley...a house was for sale two years ago for over $600,000...it sold almost a year ago for $300,000. And the prices are lower now...Our friends built a house that they moved into..and haven't put their old house on the market because prices are so low...

I'd move back there in a minute...the husband hates heat so I guess I'll be staying in Co...DW

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